Keir Starmer

[mexico1970]

Sometimes you have to take a stand and it would legendary berting.

I’m not voting for Starmer because he’s a weak lying **** who would do and say anything for power but I wish I could hand on heart say it was down to rat boy and I could add it to the list of fucking Sharp and Sky off. Cue the usual “we don’t want your vote anyway” from the resident hypocritical mouth pieces of Starmer’s Labour Party.

Yeah...but apart from that?

 

[Postman Pep]

Brass neck update

 

[metalblue]

Everyone uses the education system. Do wealthy people with small, medium and large businesses not employ people who were state educated?

The vast majority of parents are aspirational for their children. But some want to build their children's aspirations on breaking the backs of others.

How is it right that privately educated twits who have been spoonfed by teachers and fed propaganda about markets and and a disrespect and sneering towards public services have a greater chance of obtaining positions of power and influence over those public services. And then inevitably run those services in to decline?

Public schools were initially setup for the benefit of the poor, they were then corrupted and taken over by upper middle classes to advance and maintain their own positions.

Everyone does use the educational system in, at least, a secondary way. So progressive would be everyone pays for its improvement with the greatest burden falling on the richest - not a small cohort of society. Surely you can see the distinction here?

The rest of what you think happens in a private school are way off though mate.

Interesting read here. The private school teacher saying hold private schools accountable to use 20% of their income on bursaries is actually a much better idea IMHO.

The debate: Would Labour’s plan to tax private school fees work?

A teacher and former policy adviser at the Department for Education discuss Labour’s proposed policy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Doesn’t look like it’s getting implemented until 2025 now anyway and I think they’re going to run in to difficulties with this SEND issue.

 

[metalblue]

Yeah...but apart from that?

I missed off he’s a thin skinned ****.

BTW I liked how he didn’t mention his dad was a tool maker on QT … obviously his focus group got in his ear about being a boring **** and how people weren’t laughing at his dads job but him.

 

[bluenova]

Everyone does use the educational system in, at least, a secondary way. So progressive would be everyone pays for its improvement with the greatest burden falling on the richest - not a small cohort of society. Surely you can see the distinction here?

The rest of what you think happens in a private school are way off though mate.

Interesting read here. The private school teacher saying hold private schools accountable to use 20% of their income on bursaries is actually a much better idea IMHO.

The debate: Would Labour’s plan to tax private school fees work?

A teacher and former policy adviser at the Department for Education discuss Labour’s proposed policy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Doesn’t look like it’s getting implemented until 2025 now anyway and I think they’re going to run in to difficulties with this SEND issue.

I'm sure the private school teacher thinks more bursaries are a good idea :)

Bursaries would usually be given for those who do well in entrance exams, and so the private sector would just skim a few more of the most intelligent kids from the state sector.

If we're looking at what's best for state schools, where the majority of kids go, then perhaps bursaries only for kids that are in the lower 20% academically, and extra points if they've been excluded more than once.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Everyone does use the educational system in, at least, a secondary way. So progressive would be everyone pays for its improvement with the greatest burden falling on the richest - not a small cohort of society. Surely you can see the distinction here?

The rest of what you think happens in a private school are way off though mate.

It isn't at all. Not all private school kids go to the Sixth form, I live in a town with three large private schools and another in the neighbouring town. I shared classrooms kids that went to all of those schools but the most expensive one.

I was told by one of those kids that teachers did spoonfed, he wasn't prompted and he was planning to vote conservative.

Interesting read here. The private school teacher saying hold private schools accountable to use 20% of their income on bursaries is actually a much better idea IMHO.

The debate: Would Labour’s plan to tax private school fees work?

A teacher and former policy adviser at the Department for Education discuss Labour’s proposed policy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Doesn’t look like it’s getting implemented until 2025 now anyway and I think they’re going to run in to difficulties with this SEND issue.

It's a fantastic idea if you want to keep private schools going. But we need to manage them in to decline for the benefit of all.

Private/public schools are a bureaucracy that seeks to at least maintain and then replicate themselves.

Just like the British Monarchy, The Chinese Communist Party, and The Japanese Whaling Office.

But just like all the above, they are an anachronism that has outlived it's usefulness. Private schools cause more harm than good. We can't abolish them entirely but we can manage them into decline to make the job easier for future generations.

 

[mexico1970]

I missed off he’s a thin skinned ****.

BTW I liked how he didn’t mention his dad was a tool maker on QT … obviously his focus group got in his ear about being a boring **** and how people weren’t laughing at his dads job but him.

I didn't know his dad was a toolmaker, I thought he was a factory owner :) The claims of childhood poverty by Starmer are the ones that should worry everyone.

 

[metalblue]

I'm sure the private school teacher thinks more bursaries are a good idea :)

Bursaries would usually be given for those who do well in entrance exams, and so the private sector would just skim a few more of the most intelligent kids from the state sector.

If we're looking at what's best for state schools, where the majority of kids go, then perhaps bursaries only for kids that are in the lower 20% academically, and extra points if they've been excluded more than once.

Not all kids are academics - which is where our education system fails them full stop with this insistence on a national curriculum. The golden age of British education was before the national curriculum came in to force.

If private schools are so brilliant then why would we be opposed to the brightest 20% going? Hell I’d favour more so make private education fees come out ahead of tax to make it more available and / or the government contribute the £7k or whatever it is they would spend sending a kid through state school each year. Tax private education profits at 100% and pump it in to the state offering. Teach vocational skills not just academic. Education isn’t free wherever you undertake it so let’s think big and just focus on the kids here who in turn eventually pay taxes and keep everything running in the future.

Otherwise we just have a race to the bottom where ideology is more important than what’s best for kids.

 

[metalblue]

I didn't know his dad was a toolmaker, I thought he was a factory owner :) The claims of childhood poverty by Starmer are the ones that should worry everyone.

He had his phone cut off one month mate. Lived in fhe wastelands of the Surrey / Kent borders. You don’t survive that sort of hostile environment if you’ve not got summit about you. That kid knew real hardship.

 

[mexico1970]

He had his phone cut off one month mate. Lived in fhe wastelands of the Surrey / Kent borders. You don’t survive that sort of hostile environment if you’ve not got summit about you. That kid knew real hardship.

They are selling Starmer bandanas in the Arndale next to the vape shop, I shit you not mate ;-O