Keir Starmer

[meltonblue]

We were busy making independent trade deals in December, and the 12 months prior to it, no EU member can do this, the reason being we were not members of the EU. In June 2020 all members joined a scheme giving the EU
central responsibility. Which EU members, other than those who have gone rogue recently because of Von De Leyens cock ups, ordered their own vaccines?

That’s irrelevant too, the point is it was always a choice. The framing of it by Johnson is that brexit enabled us to do what we did. It didn’t, we could have done it anyway.

 

[mat]

Starmer on now saying he will do everything thst needs to be done. Resigning is your only option.

He's got the dark lord mandleson and other blarites protecting him.

A national chair that ignores and bans members for for requesting legitimate debate and questions about his leadership.

The result will be used to purge more "hard left" members and bounce the party into Tory lite.

Conference will be fun this year. It will be a blood bath.

 

[mat]

sometines its best to accept that you were wrong ?

An excellent post and in terms of standing alone can I also add the 20million Russians that were killed in ww2 fighting the Nazis !?

 

[Magicpole]

He's got the dark lord mandleson and other blarites protecting him.

A national chair that ignores and bans members for for requesting legitimate debate and questions about his leadership.

The result will be used to purge more "hard left" members and bounce the party into Tory lite.

Conference will be fun this year. It will be a blood bath.

If anybody wants to check my view they can go back and read it. We woukd only win Indy if three things hapoened.

1. The press and right wing Labour MP's destroying Corbyn and a Left wing future.
2. Brexit and a move to the Right reinforcing economic hardship for us.
3. The collapse of the Labour Party as either irrelevant or Tory Lite

All have happened, if we don't go for it now in the next two years, it's Tory rule up here forever.

 

[mat]

If anybody wants to check my view they can go back and read it. We woukd only win Indy if three things hapoened.

1. The press and right wing Labour MP's destroying Corbyn and a Left wing future.
2. Brexit and a move to the Right reinforcing economic hardship for us.
3. The collapse of the Labour Party as either irrelevant or Tory Lite

All have happened, if we don't go for it now in the next two years, it's Tory rule up here forever.

That should be put on a flyer and used in any official campaign.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

look at the dates mat, That is not the period in time that Rascal was referring to

 

[SamBlue]

That 'broad church' bullshit is finally dead.

 

[bobmcfc]

Voted for labour in the last GE. Since then I've seen crime skyrocket in failsworth with absolutely nothing being done. I voted independent because if those in charge fail at the job then you get rid.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

An excellent post and in terms of standing alone can I also add the 20million Russians that were killed in ww2 fighting the Nazis !?

Like Mat you appear to have no idea of timelines or what the original statement from Rascal was about June 1940 to June or Dec 1941 is what is usually termed when Britain stood alone. Russia was an ally of Nazi Germany up until June 1941.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

RW visions of little old Britain standing alone against the might of Fascism. It is a myth.

i could add its coming up with offensive left wing clap trap like this that will win you zero votes in core labour areas. You will lose them hand over fist.