Keir Starmer

We could, but what for? 80 odd seat majority, with three and a half years before this parliament ends.

Unless you think the Brexit shit will hit the fan and Johnson dashes to the polls before it does.

which is why he would be mad to do it

Johnson is all about bumbling through - a Micawber approach - why risk a huge majority being reduced? If/when Brexit damage is exposed if the EU fuck us off over the NI Protocol next week he still has some time to fashion a flag shagging anti immigrant (not ) royal yacht Maldives FTA to sort to try and distract his base
 
which is why he would be mad to do it

Johnson is all about bumbling through - a Micawber approach - why risk a huge majority being reduced? If/when Brexit damage is exposed if the EU fuck us off over the NI Protocol next week he still has some time to fashion a flag shagging anti immigrant (not ) royal yacht Maldives FTA to sort to try and distract his base

Agreed.

Johnson is a chancer, he doesn't think strategically. I doubt very much he has any idea what he'll be doing three months from now let alone a year.
 
It isn't anymore, I have been saying this for a while.

Double fucked, it should just go quietly and disband. A new leftist party without the baggage is needed.

I do believe it is a cynical ploy, they were at it again yesterday with this white privilige stuff and then the One Nation One Britain stuff. It may be the only arrow to my bow, but its the only arrow I have because the left can not fight it because of the manipulation from the likes of the Tufton Street and its RW think tanks. Labour are still being blamed for things even now after how many years of Tory piss taking. It is all designed to keep rich older white men in positions of power and privilige, they use their wealth to enhance their standing in society and to influence political decision making so it favours them. As long as they make sure enough crumbs are thrown to those beneath them and enough propaganda is released then the receivers of crumbs will back them. Corbyn love him or loath him, scared them to death, he scared them that much they unleashed the dogs of war on him, they did it to Ed Miliband beforehand with their cynical attacks on his father and the ridiculousness of the bacon butty episode.

A dinosaur I may be, but I am only seen as a dinosaur because of the cynicism showed towards anything vaguely left wing and the efforts that are undertaken to undermine anything remotely left wing in thought. The backing of Starmer is evidence, he is comfortable for the cynics, they can afford him to be in power, because he is no threat to their standing, their status, their wealth. He epitomises everything that the right want in a Labour leader. If they get bored of Johnson, they could live with a Starmer government, then they can proclaim how great our democracy is when surely everyone can see it is a masquerade, a sham democracy in a country resembling a shambles for many. Where dog whistles have replaced policy, where profit is more important than people. The current Johnson government is probably the most Keynesian since Atlee, it has rebooted the state, it should be a time for the left to say we were right, but we cant, because it is hidden behind this culture war bullshit. The Tories throw crumbs, the receivers of crumbs are grateful for the crumbs and then repay the crumb givers with their support, the left though is trapped as the receivers of crumbs already have there crumbs and if Labour offered more crumbs the cynics would shout en masse "how are you paying for that, how is it funded" and then they show Diane Abbott making a mistake adding up and the crumb receivers think ah, yes they can't offer more crumbs because.............

I have to accept and even acknowledge that the Tory cunts are very good at doing what Tory cunts do best, winning power and convincing people they are the best party to be in power despite them being the biggest shower of incompetent fuckwits we have ever had to suffer.

At least in the Jurassic era there were no Tories because Teddy T-Rex scoffed the fat useless fuckers for breakfast.

If the rules of the game are constantly stacked against you and it's not going to change any time soon, and despite the obvious righteousness of your cause the working class stubbornly continues to vote for toffs, then I strongly suggest you take up misanthropy and occasional heavy drinking.

It helps me.
 
One of our local campaign mangers mentioned she's the one the PLP are backing as they suspect Kier will resign after the by election.

That doesn't sound entirely implausible. Would Starmer fall on his sword? He knows what's likely to happen in Batley yet he's still re-shuffling his deck chairs...Sorry! I mean staff.

You might be right but I can't see it.
 
That doesn't sound entirely implausible. Would Starmer fall on his sword? He knows what's likely to happen in Batley yet he's still re-shuffling his deck chairs...Sorry! I mean staff.

You might be right but I can't see it.
I agree with you.

He hasn't had any time to set out his stall publicly.

It maybe wishful thinking.
 
With all those on here refusing to vote Labour for whatever reason and with all these normal Red voters turning to Blue then it looks like the Tory’s are in for a while, regardless of who is in charge.
 
If the rules of the game are constantly stacked against you and it's not going to change any time soon, and despite the obvious righteousness of your cause the working class stubbornly continues to vote for toffs, then I strongly suggest you take up misanthropy and occasional heavy drinking.

It helps me.
Thanks for the advice, but as a recovering alcoholic who has always had a disdain for certain sections of humanity I fear it will only exacerbate my cynicism.
 

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