Keir Starmer

As Shadow Education Secretary I was disappointed Labour couldn’t choose an MP capable of knowing how to use was / were correctly. She’s an absolute liability.
As a bit of a stickler for correct grammar, the use of "was" instead of "were" and vice versa does annoy me slightly but I'm prepared to admit that most people aren't that bothered, and judging her on that without taking account all her attributes is a bit small minded. The fact that she was shadow education secretary is neither here nor there; she's not a teacher and doesn't pretend to be. She is never going to be leader of the party because like it or not she doesn't present the right image as she still retains a broad accent which is enough to put off too many electors, but in spite of that she is eloquent and quite persuasive in her arguments if you look past her grammar and accent. Unlike the idiot in charge of the country who can barely string a sentence together without blustering and waffling about vaccines. But he does it in a posh accent and dresses up in silly outfits so that's ok.
 
Labour vote down 9000
Conservative vote down 6000
Some weird Heavy Woollen party (run by a UKIP bloke) disappeared - 6500
Galloway 8000

Difficult to read anything from that due to the unusual candidates at the last two elections.
 
I doubt very much he got too many tory votes. Galloway was purely going for the islamic labour vote, same as did round us (apparently his bellend bus was out and about there too, with his oh so big and hard "election helpers". mega ****).

I don't think he got any tory votes, I think he got dissatisfied labour votes which stopped those votes becoming tory votes
 
I don't think he got any tory votes, I think he got dissatisfied labour votes which stopped those votes becoming tory votes
Fair argument, although after this week with Hancock etc, and the amount of racist bullshit pouring out of the collective tory arse, I doubt too many would have voted for the conservatives. Regardless, he can stick his battle bus up his arse. He lost again. Brilliant.
 
What we can't know is how many votes Labour received due to the candidate being Jo Cox's sister.....I'm of the opinion Labour held the seat despite Starmer, and certainly not because of him.
 
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What we can't know is how many votes Labour received due to the candidate being Jo Cox's sister.....I'm of the opinion Labour held the seat despite Starmer, and certainly not because of him.
You're probably right but it will certainly help him no end that people know that Labour can win a vote that everyone predicted they'd lose. I'm just beginning to wonder if some of the electorate are beginning to realise that Johnson has no credible policies and relies on impressing enough people by wearing fancy dress, using sound bites and bullshitting/ gaslighting.
 
You're probably right but it will certainly help him no end that people know that Labour can win a vote that everyone predicted they'd lose. I'm just beginning to wonder if some of the electorate are beginning to realise that Johnson has no credible policies and relies on impressing enough people by wearing fancy dress, using sound bites and bullshitting/ gaslighting.
I think that quite a few of the electorate know that we currently have a lazy lying incompetent buffoon in Number 10, but the Leader of the Alternative Tory Party doesnt inspire confidence.
 
I think that quite a few of the electorate know that we currently have a lazy lying incompetent buffoon in Number 10, but the Leader of the Alternative Tory Party doesnt inspire confidence.
However he's not Corbyn and can't be characterised by the media as a loony lefty, and even if he's a bit of a Tory (which I don't think he is) it's far better than current Tory Party that have given up on the traditional Conservative agenda and have become the Brexit and Bullshit Party with no principles at all.
 

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