This is exactly why Labour are screwed though. Corbyn's lot spent 4 years kicking off that everyone didn't get behind their deity, but as soon as someone else gets the leadership job, the boot is constantly being put in with no sense of irony at all. Starmer may be many things, but he isn't a tory.I think that quite a few of the electorate know that we currently have a lazy lying incompetent buffoon in Number 10, but the Leader of the Alternative Tory Party doesnt inspire confidence.
This is exactly why Labour are screwed though. Corbyn's lot spent 4 years kicking off that everyone didn't get behind their deity, but as soon as someone else gets the leadership job, the boot is constantly being put in with no sense of irony at all. Starmer may be many things, but he isn't a tory.
What was Starmer supposed to do there? Corbyn was briefed on the findings of the antisemitism report and he essentially stuck two fingers up to the party. I also don't agree with your analysis on the polls, i believe it is entirely a vaccine bounce. Johnson isn't stupid. He knew that as long as the vaccine program worked, which it has, the voters would forgive him for pretty much anything. The Corbyn thing won't even have been on most people's radar outside of the party, or those who closely follow what is going on.If you think that Starmer is receiving the same level of boot from the left as Corbyn received from the right then you need to get out more.
Corbyn, the ex leader of the Labour party, had the whip personally removed by Starmer. Forget the Tory vaccine bounce, Starmer's slide in the polls can be pin pointed to that very moment.
You might not like the left in the party, I'm beginning to get pissed off with them myself, but alienating them and booting them out of the party has consequences.
This bed is of Starmer's making, he has to lie in it.
What was Starmer supposed to do there? Corbyn was briefed on the findings of the antisemitism report and he essentially stuck two fingers up to the party.
I also don't agree with your analysis on the polls, i believe it is entirely a vaccine bounce. Johnson isn't stupid. He knew that as long as the vaccine program worked, which it has, the voters would forgive him for pretty much anything. The Corbyn thing won't even have been on most people's radar outside of the party, or those who closely follow what is going on.
The Corbyn thing won't even have been on most people's radar outside of the party, or those who closely follow what is going on.
The voters Labour need to win were generally turned off by a combination of Corbyn and Labour refusal to have any coherent brexit policy whatsoever (see Corbyn). Corbyn being hoofed out the party will have been a good thing. As for you saying the facts don't support the assertion, I'm going off purely what i thought to be the case so if you can point out where I was wrong, that would be great. My assertion is that Corbyn knew the content of the anti-Semitism report, all he had to was accept he'd made mistakes, but he didn't do that and put two fingers up to the party putting out his own version of events. The party then hoofed him.The facts do not support that assertion.
That is the narrative, but it does not hold up to scrutiny, A Tory victory over Labour, a Liberal victory over the Tories and a Labour hold tell us nothing.
Smarter Tories know they're in trouble, their support is wide, thin and old. Those who don't vote Tory are younger, better educated and increasingly they despise the Tories.
Voters don't vote for divided party's and divided party's make poor oppositions.
The voters Labour need to win were generally turned off by a combination of Corbyn and Labour refusal to have any coherent brexit policy whatsoever (see Corbyn). Corbyn being hoofed out the party will have been a good thing. As for you saying the facts don't support the assertion, I'm going off purely what i thought to be the case so if you can point out where I was wrong, that would be great. My assertion is that Corbyn knew the content of the anti-Semitism report, all he had to was accept he'd made mistakes, but he didn't do that and put two fingers up to the party putting out his own version of events. The party then hoofed him.
neither do a Labour left, as 18 months ago proved.The report was instigated in the expectation that the Labour Party would be found to be institutionally anti-Semitic.
The report did not find that.
it found four cases in which the party leadership had intervened.
Starmer bigged the report up and did a mea culpa on behalf of the entire party. Corbyn put the report in its proper perspective and Starmer lashed out at him knowing the right had his back and they did, but the Labour right do not a party make.
I realy find this tedious name-ism quite sad.
And it was the blue labour progress enthralled arsewipes like Alan Johnson and Mandelson that started it, Blairite, brownite, corbynite blah blah..
None of them exist, you can be a right wing labour member and thinl blair is a ****, you can be a socialist labour member and think cobyn was also a useless ****, you can be inbetween and really shoud join the SDP.
Identity politics something a right wing thinktank loves imersed such shite into the party and as long as starmer thinks Mandelson is someone to garner sage advice from the party under him is going nowhere.