Keir Starmer

mat said:
So you want this government of selfish cunts because you are one, or have I misinterpreted your statement? If I have I apologise in advance.
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Do I fuck want this government, they‘re there directly because the left politics do not get people voting for them.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Not sure this is true. Labour got 40% of the popular vote in 2017 with the most lw/socialist offer possibly since the 50's and certainly since the 70's / early 80's. Corbyn only actually missed out on being PM by a few thousand votes. It was then deemed necessary to persuade us that a 'left society' was a more dangerous option than a failed mayor and Have I got news for you stand-in presenter.
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Corbyn just fell short and maybe with a fair media could‘ve gone further. However, they still fell short even when a light was lit under those voters who hadn’t voted for while, choosing to wake up following the Brexit vote.

I do wonder if we are now akin to the US where it’s either right or centre-right, has our nation changed or have we always been like that?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
May be the party needs to be destroyed as it is. We are very much right of centre at the moment and if the electorate are there then you can’t go full left to get them back.

Nobody wants a left society, as has been proved, which means that if Labour want to lead, they have to change.
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How come the Tories were elected with a minority of votes? I think it was around 35% of the electorate.

It is a fact more people voted for left/liberal parties than for right wing parties. It is one of the vagaries of FTP that we have had governments with a minority vote at every election since the war apart from 1951 i think.
 
Rascal said:
How come the Tories were elected with a minority of votes? I think it was around 35% of the electorate.

It is a fact more people voted for left/liberal parties than for right wing parties. It is one of the vagaries of FTP that we have had governments with a minority vote at every election since the war apart from 1951 i think.
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I refer you to my last post, mate. I’m genuinely intrigued at where we are as a nation. Only yesterday was I having a conversation with a couple of down to earth, working class lads whose thinking is much aligned to the right of centre.
 
Rascal said:
How come the Tories were elected with a minority of votes? I think it was around 35% of the electorate.

It is a fact more people voted for left/liberal parties than for right wing parties. It is one of the vagaries of FTP that we have had governments with a minority vote at every election since the war apart from 1951 i think.
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Churchill was elected in 1951 on fewer votes than Attlee.

Party
Votes​
Seats​
Change​
UK Vote Share (%)​
GB Vote Share (%)​
Conservative
13,718,199​
321​
+ 23​
48.0​
47.8​
Labour
13,948,883​
295​
- 20​
48.8​
49.4​
Liberal
730,546​
6​
- 3​
2.6​
2.6​
Others
198,966​
3​
n/c​
0.6​
0.3​
 
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