Keir Starmer

[domalino]

If it’s all obviously bollocks, like you say, then I would think it would be easy to disprove.

It has been very easily comprehensively disproven.

You want to refuse the proof that it's bollocks and then say "oh you can't prove it!".

Absolutely shameless the pair of you.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Already done.
No company records.
No address of premises.
No record of anything related to this fictitious company apart from a few blogs and forums.

The lack of a record at Companies House is frankly irrelevant. You can operate as a sole trader and have your own business.

And none of this would be of any interest if Starmer didn’t continually fall back on this ‘my Dad worked in a factory’ line to try and get himself out of awkward questions.

 

[west didsblue]

The lack of a record at Companies House is frankly irrelevant. You can operate as a sole trader and have your own business.

And none of this would be of any interest if Starmer didn’t continually fall back on this ‘my Dad worked in a factory’ line to try and get himself out of awkward questions.

Not irrelevant at all because it proves you’re talking shite. If you’ve got any evidence to the contrary post a credible link. But you can’t do that because you would have done it already if it existed.

It’s only of interest to Tories and Corbynites because it’s an imaginary stick to beat Starmer with.

 

[bluenova]

The line of questioning may be overly simplistic, but the question undoubtedly relates to the cuts implied by the March Budget and Starmer is not being truthful on the matter.

You can concentrate on the use of ‘any’ if you want, but I’m not sure why you would want to.

If it relates to those "implied by the March budget", why did the LBC clip it to start with the phrase:

"Can you say: ‘read my lips, no cuts to public services’?"

There's no other context to the clip.

If you say what she wants you to say, and then you cut say a kids health scheme in the NHS, because you find there are better outputs from a health scheme in schools, you can be called a liar, despite doing exactly what a good PM is supposed to be doing.

 

[metalblue]

No he didn't. There's no record of it at companies house, which means it was not a registered company in this country post 1844.



He was a man who was paid to do manual work in factories. AKA a factory worker.



Fuck off lol. You talking about dishonesty when you're lying through your teeth pretending that Rodney Starmer giving himself an unofficial trading name and renting a shed to work in when he was uncontracted is equivalent to him owning the factories he worked in.

I don’t recall saying the company was Oxted Tool Ltd or equivalent nor do I recall saying he owned “factories” - so am I really the one lying through my teeth here?? As it wasn’t registered it is assumed it was a sole trader or partnership but equally that doesn’t mean they can’t have employees. We simply don’t know how successful or otherwise it was.

I do wonder why someone who previously has said his dad “was a toolmaker working in a factory and working every hour” would be so coy as to what it really was. We do know Starmer has previous for playing down his background. Now everyone is entitled to a private life but Starmer is the one bringing his dad into the conversation - as it happens his dad seems like a really good bloke from what is in the public domain and someone Starmer should be very proud of.

 

[bluenova]

Do you think he came across showing a genuine interest in her plight?

I've taught communication skills for people who deal with clients who are describing problems in their life, and taught about how to empathise or sympathise with them. I also have plenty of friends who are psychiatrists and counsellors, and for a nervous child, telling a story which makes them laugh and feel more comfortable about what they're saying, is absolutely what I'd expect someone to do if they're trying to show an interest.

The clip is headlined with the quote about 'treats', which she doesn't even say till the end, so we don't get to see what he actually says. He may be picking up on her body language, but then given it's a clear photo op, and the kid is being prompted by her mum, my cynical side would suggest that he knows full well she's not finished asking her question.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Not irrelevant at all because it proves you’re talking shite. If you’ve got any evidence to the contrary post a credible link. But you can’t do that because you would have done it already if it existed.

It’s only of interest to Tories and Corbynites because it’s an imaginary stick to beat Starmer with.

Again, the lack of a record at Companies House is irrelevant. Fact.

 

[Vic]

How many employees did Oxted Tool Co. have?

A quick google shows it was never registered at companies house, so your big "gotcha" is that a self employed bloke gave himself a trading name.

It's very hard to imagine you don't already know that given your obsession with the subject, so seems like you're purposefully trying to mislead people into thinking his father owned a successful business.

My dad ran a fireplace sales company in All Saints (might have been where The Eighth Day is). He didn't sell many tiled fireplaces - people were ripping them out.

My French electrician friend (here in the UK) went independent as "Anglo-French Electrics" and paid all the charges to get registered but still ended up doing just agency work.

 

[metalblue]

I’ve already talked about the video. Looks pretty innocuous to me as I said on the previous page. The accusation that he was laughing and sneering at a small child is ridiculous.

What did he actually say though that demonstrates he gave a fuck? The poor girl was left hanging and the lady on the left was the one talking to her at the end because Starmer had fuck all to say. Embarrassing but you keep digging that hole and defending him.

 

[remember arthur mann]

I've taught communication skills for people who deal with clients who are describing problems in their life, and taught about how to empathise or sympathise with them. I also have plenty of friends who are psychiatrists and counsellors, and for a nervous child, telling a story which makes them laugh and feel more comfortable about what they're saying, is absolutely what I'd expect someone to do if they're trying to show an interest.

Kinnell ! I'm not getting involved with you, you'd be psychoanalysing me in no time.

 

[bluenova]

Kinnell ! I'm not getting involved with you, you'd be psychoanalysing me in no time.

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You're pretty safe. I was more in the business of advising you if the bailiffs were knocking on the door, or you'd been refused benefits.

I knew when to nod my head, and could probably help you continue if you burst into tears mid-interview, but nothing deeper than that ;)

 

[west didsblue]

Again, the lack of a record at Companies House is irrelevant. Fact.

Didn’t realise you were Rafa Benitez.

 

[metalblue]

For the record - things I don’t give a flying fuck about.

Starmer’s Dad.
Sunak’s Mum.
Is a shed a workshop or a tool making factory.

Correct

What did you think of the video?

 

[bluenova]

What did he actually say though that demonstrates he gave a fuck? The poor girl was left hanging and the lady on the left was the one talking to her at the end because Starmer had fuck all to say. Embarrassing but you keep digging that hole and defending him.

Isn't the lady on the left her mum/guardian? She reminds her to talk about the 'treats' and the kid replies that it's good that her and (Ellie?) both work, which suggests it's their home life she's talking about. Clearly the women isn't talking to her because Starmer isn't, she's prompting her because she knows the girl, and knows she had more she wanted to say.

 

[Vic]

He owned a company. He was not some factory worker as Starmer portrays. It’s somewhat dishonest given he likes to peddle this line about his dad being a toolmaker.

Maybe let’s flip this around, Sunak’s mum owned a pharmacy so would it convey the full story to describe her as working in a pharmacy?

Good grief. Give it a rest.

Stihl, Stanley, Spear and Jackson, Black and Decker, Bosch...

No, just checked in B and Q, no Starmer Tools.

Plenty of Tory tools here.

 

[Vic]

What did he actually say though that demonstrates he gave a fuck? The poor girl was left hanging and the lady on the left was the one talking to her at the end because Starmer had fuck all to say. Embarrassing but you keep digging that hole and defending him.

"Listen kid, until the workers take control of the means of production, or your Ukrainian friend at school can go home, heating your home is going to be expensive. Now try talking to Tory tossers who'll send your mum to learn how to live on 30p a day."

 

[west didsblue]

What did he actually say though that demonstrates he gave a fuck? The poor girl was left hanging and the lady on the left was the one talking to her at the end because Starmer had fuck all to say. Embarrassing but you keep digging that hole and defending him.

I’m not defending him or attacking him. It was an innocuous exchange with a slightly awkward 3 second pause in talking. Big fucking deal.

The fact that you agree with the bloke who said it was the most disgusting thing he’s ever seen from a politician is frankly bizarre.

 

[metalblue]

I've taught communication skills for people who deal with clients who are describing problems in their life, and taught about how to empathise or sympathise with them. I also have plenty of friends who are psychiatrists and counsellors, and for a nervous child, telling a story which makes them laugh and feel more comfortable about what they're saying, is absolutely what I'd expect someone to do if they're trying to show an interest.

The clip is headlined with the quote about 'treats', which she doesn't even say till the end, so we don't get to see what he actually says. He may be picking up on her body language, but then given it's a clear photo op, and the kid is being prompted by her mum, my cynical side would suggest that he knows full well she's not finished asking her question.

So in your professional capacity do you think that he empathised or sympathised with the girl? Is cutting across a child who is talking a communication skill you would teach?

 

[metalblue]

"Listen kid, until the workers take control of the means of production, or your Ukrainian friend at school can go home, heating your home is going to be expensive. Now try talking to Tory tossers who'll send your mum to learn how to live on 30p a day."

A simple “you’re not alone and I do know things are really hard at the minute and I really want to be able to change that for you and people like you” just feels a little better than “my 6ft 1 lad won’t fit in a onesie” or whatever words to that effect he mumbled.

 

[metalblue]

I’m not defending him or attacking him. It was an innocuous exchange with a slightly awkward 3 second pause in talking. Big fucking deal.

The fact that you agree with the bloke who said it was the most disgusting thing he’s ever seen from a politician is frankly bizarre.

I didn’t agree with him. I merely posted it as that’s where I saw it on Twitter. I said he was a ****, because in this case he was a ****.