Keir Starmer

[Rascal]

I didn’t blame “the left” for Brexit. I blamed “the left” of the Labour Party for facilitating Brexit by putting up a shit candidate for Prime Minister, and surrounding him with shit people. This is what allowed a charlatan to take power. I didn’t take them to task for it at the time or rant about it. I gave them my vote.

But now they need to shut up and let Labour reinvent itself into an electable party. The dissenters at the conference are loons for not doing that. My point is that simple and I don’t really need the political history details because I know them: sensible politicians were and are pro EU, daft ones were and are anti EU, from all parties.

You missed the rest of my post

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I have no idea. It depends if you would rather not vote Labour because they’ve got a centrist leader and consequently enable the Tories to win another disastrous term in office.

Well unless he lives in seat where Labour stand a chance of winning he shouldn't be voting Labour anyway.

 

[somapop]

I wasn't asking about their profession, maybe you could name some specifically. I think you might be misinformed if you believe all of the decisions to prosecute were made or reviewed by Starmer.

He left the DPP in November 2013.

The event that sparked the pursuit of cases involving historic allegations was the death of Jimmy Savile in 2011. Operation Yewtree kicked off in 2012, Operation Midland in 2014. So come back and name names and cite specific examples you can link to Starmer or maybe you ought to admit you are running your mouth.

A friend (who has stopped singing the praises of Brexit all of a sudden) mentioned Starmer and such cases (such as the Rotherham) but I didn't know off hand how much is involvement was and how much was mud slinging.
I think it's slowly dawning on him things are working out as he'd hoped.
Never voted Conservatives before in his life (he was always vitriolic at their mention).
Strange times.

 

[somapop]

I think this is what he was referring to:

https://fullfact.org/online/keir-starmer-tweet-child-abuse/

 

[Rascal]

I have no idea. It depends if you would rather not vote Labour because they’ve got a centrist leader and consequently enable the Tories to win another disastrous term in office.

There was a time when i was not politically savvy enough and would vote Labour come what may.

I realised that I was voting for things I didn't believe in, it was negative democracy I was voting against a party I believed in less.

I want to vote for the issues that matter to me and if that means i vote for Lord Buckethead or even the Lib Dems (spit) I will because that is positive democracy. Myabe

I would obviously vote for the candidate furthest to the left in my constituency because that is what i believe.

My single vote matters not nationally, but it matters to me.

 

[Rascal]

remaA friend (who has stopped singing the praises of Brexit all of a sudden) mentioned Starmer and such cases (such as the Rotherham) but I didn't know off hand how much is involvement was and how much was mud slinging.
I think it's slowly dawning on him things are working out as he'd hoped.
Never voted Conservatives before in his life (he was always vitriolic at their mention).
Strange times.

Brexit messed up political alignment, it somehow strangely allied the far right and the far left and left the liberals in the centre being remain. But when you look at the centre , its liberalism and acceptance of free markets its not surprising. The far right and the hard left make strange bedfellows but they share the notion of patriotism and self determination. Benn and Enoch Powell were in agreement on this albeit from different perspectives.

 

[west didsblue]

There was a time when i was not politically savvy enough and would vote Labour come what may.

I realised that I was voting for things I didn't believe in, it was negative democracy I was voting against a party I believed in less.

I want to vote for the issues that matter to me and if that means i vote for Lord Buckethead or even the Lib Dems (spit) I will because that is positive democracy. Myabe

I would obviously vote for the candidate furthest to the left in my constituency because that is what i believe.

My single vote matters not nationally, but it matters to me.

I wouldn’t disagree with a word you say in normal times, but with this current government in charge who are clearly corrupt and care nothing about the future of the UK and are only in it for themselves, in a marginal seat I would set aside that approach to voting and vote for the party most likely to beat the Tory candidate. Anything else is enabling them to carry on destroying the fabric of our society and breaking up the union, all for their own personal gain.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You missed the rest of my post

I didn’t. It was a political lesson I didn’t need and couldn’t be bothered to reply to on a Friday night whilst I’m having a beer with my wife.

 

[hilts]

I wouldn’t disagree with a word you say in normal times, but with this current government in charge who are clearly corrupt and care nothing about the future of the UK and are only in it for themselves, in a marginal seat I would set aside that approach to voting and vote for the party most likely to beat the Tory candidate. Anything else is enabling them to carry on destroying the fabric of our society and breaking up the union, all for their own personal gain.

Ask yourself how many local MP's got in by one vote, ask yourself how many elections were decided on one vote. Then ask yourself what more can you do as an individual apart from vote for what you believe.

As an individual tactical voting is not only pointless but makes you responsible for the outcome.

 

[lazerblue]

Good mates aren't they?

I've moved it to page 666 for you, is your head spinning round yet ;-)