Keir Starmer

[hammocity]

Thats your wish - targeting it at the pensioners in most need who get pension credits and more importantly encouraging as many as possible to make those claims. It may mean that the savings are a percentage of what is hoped but if pensioners are getting all the help they are entitled to then good.

I suspect you fear any successful policy from a Labour Govt.

What about the Pensioners who have a small pension after working all their lives? When I started work in 1975 there was no Pension offered to me working for a PLC. I did subsequently have Pensions but those older than me quite often didn't have company pensions going back to the 60's/70's.

My first pension was when I reached 25 and it was 5% contribution from employer and employee, nothing like the 27% Civil Servants are getting now.

A small pension of around 4K per annum plus state pension gets around £15.5k pa, no pension credit, no WFP, big chunk of income lost especially for those renting properties. You are proper left wing, a Starmer fan boy, he's a middle class **** but you don't give two fucks about the people who have worked hard and are now struggling, however you're quite happy for the lazy cunts to claim maximum benefits.

 

[BlueHammer85]

He's fucking loaded, if he was that concerned he could of sorted it himself

Who cares ? It’s not out the taxpayers money. Someone offered his son accommodation and he accepted , non story.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Strange times. It seems like those on the left are moving so much to the right, they are passing those on the right moving left.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What I cannot stand abouit him more than anything else is the lying. For me, it's even worse than when Boris would do it. I don't know why I feel like that, maybe it's because I am supporter of conservative principles, but genuinely I have NEVER been a fan of Boris.

I think it's because Starmer is so slimy, I am not even sure he knows he is doing it. The lie about having to remove the WFA to "stablize the economy". I have never heard such tripe in all my life. The economy was not "unstable" in the first place. Broke, yes. But not "unstable".

As if a £1.3bn saving contributing to an alleged forecast £22hn deficit in £1,226bn of overall spending, could POSSIBLY be something that would "stablize the economy". It's such a ludicrous claim it is laughable. Anyone who stops to think, will not believe it, because it's just not true.

He CHOSE to take the WFA away for whatever sick motivation he may have had. That's the truth and his constant lying about it is ruining his image more and more, day by day.

Why would you refer to Johnson as a liar and yet in the same breath call the fat **** ‘Boris’? By that token shouldn’t you be referring to the Prime Minister as Sir Keir, or at least as Keir?

I don’t know why people legitimise Johnson in this way, like he’s their mate, when they refer to every other politician by their surname. It’s utterly bizzare and gives off the impression that they are suggestible, or have even, to some extent, been gaslit.

Genuinely, why do you afford him that gesture of calling him by his first name, when you plainly don’t towards other politicians?

 

[hammocity]

Who cares ? It’s not out the taxpayers money. Someone offered his son accommodation and he accepted , non story.

Why can't you accept he's a middle class **** masquerading as a Socialist, he's part of the Primrose Hill mob, he knows fuck all about working class struggles.

Anger as Starmer joins calls to restrict access to Primrose Hill | Keir Starmer | The Guardian

Campaigners say Labour leader should not follow ‘Tory agenda’ over night curfews at north London park

amp.theguardian.com

 

[hcblue95]

Strange times. It seems like those on the left are moving so much to the right, they are passing those on the right moving left.

While I agree with the first part of your comment, I'm not sure there are many on the right moving left. At least not on here. It seems most are just keen to jump on the mistakes labour are making.

 

[frothy]

Who cares ? It’s not out the taxpayers money. Someone offered his son accommodation and he accepted , non story.

It will be somebody that wants something in return, and during the Election campaign Starmer wouldnt have been at home much, so the press wouldnt have been parked outside his house

Who cares ? It’s not out the taxpayers money. Someone offered his son accommodation and he accepted , non story.

Whoever it was will want something in return, and Starmer wouldnt have been at home much during the Election campaign, so the press wouldnt have been parked outside his house all the time

 

[bluethrunthru]

What about the Pensioners who have a small pension after working all their lives? When I started work in 1975 there was no Pension offered to me working for a PLC. I did subsequently have Pensions but those older than me quite often didn't have company pensions going back to the 60's/70's.

My first pension was when I reached 25 and it was 5% contribution from employer and employee, nothing like the 27% Civil Servants are getting now.

A small pension of around 4K per annum plus state pension gets around £15.5k pa, no pension credit, no WFP, big chunk of income lost especially for those renting properties. You are proper left wing, a Starmer fan boy, he's a middle class **** but you don't give two fucks about the people who have worked hard and are now struggling, however you're quite happy for the lazy cunts to claim maximum benefits.

I currently am living on 2 pensions total accumulated provision is £13.4k. I heat my home and last year paid nigh on a grand in utility bills alone. I run an aged (11 yo 90k mile ) car. I don't get a bus pass I don't get any state pension ( thats been moved a further 5 years away from me ) but I get by well enough. £300 would be a nice to have not a deal breaker.

 

[Lowtower]

While I agree with the first part of your comment, I'm not sure there are many on the right moving left. At least not on here. It seems most are just keen to jump on the mistakes labour are making.

Choices mate, not mistakes.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Plus it gets amplified by lies like this that GMB could clearly question - Jan 1991 nurses were auto enroled into the NHS pension scheme so as a Nurse of over 21 years Q1 is "why are you not getting your NHS pension alongside the state pension?"

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Plus it gets amplified by lies like this that GMB could clearly question - Jan 1991 nurses were auto enroled into the NHS pension scheme so as a Nurse of over 21 years Q1 is "why are you not getting your NHS pension alongside the state pension?"

She may have left the profession and claimed the pension early?

it won't be nothing though.

 

[Postman Pep]

Couple of things on this. Is there any evidence of him getting doorstepped anywhere? Don't remember any and we know what it looks like from past experience.
Also half the time he stayed there was outside of the exam period. Not like Keith to use members of his family like that is it.

 

[hammocity]

I currently am living on 2 pensions total accumulated provision is £13.4k. I heat my home and last year paid nigh on a grand in utility bills alone. I run an aged (11 yo 90k mile ) car. I don't get a bus pass I don't get any state pension ( thats been moved a further 5 years away from me ) but I get by well enough. £300 would be a nice to have not a deal breaker.

Can't imagine how you survive on that, I budget around £36k pa for 2 of us and even though we don't live a lavish lifestyle we'd barely live our life on double your budget.

 

[dobingsdobber]

Won't someone think of the sausages?

I will eventually,soon as I finish this hostage butty.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Plus it gets amplified by lies like this that GMB could clearly question - Jan 1991 nurses were auto enroled into the NHS pension scheme so as a Nurse of over 21 years Q1 is "why are you not getting your NHS pension alongside the state pension?"

She may have withdrawn from the NHS pension scheme.
I know someone who did, claiming they could not afford the contributions.
Idiotic, but nevertheless it happened.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Can't imagine how you survive on that, I budget around £36k pa for 2 of us and even though we don't live a lavish lifestyle we'd barely live our life on double your budget.

The point is very wealthy people are using politics to persuade people on or around the average wage that they will be next.

classic example

 

[mosssideblue]

Couple of things on this. Is there any evidence of him getting doorstepped anywhere? Don't remember any and we know what it looks like from past experience.
Also half the time he stayed there was outside of the exam period. Not like Keith to use members of his family like that is it.

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What exactly is your beef? Didn’t cost you or I a penny

 

[bluethrunthru]

She may have withdrawn from the NHS pension scheme.
I know someone who did, claiming they could not afford the contributions.
Idiotic, but nevertheless it happened.

well that makes it her issue not the Govt's. Thinking any govt will keep the status quo for you financially until you die is folly.

 

[Hertzblue]

 

[hammocity]

The point is very wealthy people are using politics to persuade people on or around the average wage that they will be next.

classic example

Absolutely agree with that, we're in Pension Draw downs and come age around 76/77 if we live that long (currently 65 and 67) we'll either downsize, take equity release or possibly both.

My beef is nothing to do with our situation, I'm ok with the WFP being stopped for us, it's those in a less fortunate position I'm upset over. My older mate of 75 who comes to football with us has his state and private pension and gets by ok. However the WFP is the equivalent of his annual holiday with his pals, he's not going now, it's ok for others to say he used the payment to subsidise his holiday but that amount lost without notice has cost him a week away. He now lives on his own and that week was very important for his mental health, something he really looked forward to. He could give up his Season Ticket but going to games is what he's done for the past 60 plus years and he enjoys the company.