Keir Starmer

Guess you'd rather lose to the Tories than lose the argument?
It's not about an arguement and to be honest that is a very tired cliched comment.

No one here who suppprts labour wants the tories to win or labour to lose, but they can still recognise a lying twat who is far removed from even centre left ideology and are right to express that concern.

Labour must win the next ellection, starmer is the biggest worry that it might not happe
 
Starmer is another cameron, he belives in austerity to solve the economic crisis and close ties with private investment to service the public sector.

What was the bollocks he came out with yesterday, there is no ability for wage growth until the economy grows.

He is a neo liberals wet dream

He's good cop to Truss's bad cop, but they're travelling the same road, just at different speeds.
 
No but unless you are daft enough to think your one little vote will bring in your local Labour MP and that MP will get Starmer the beige into power by one seat then my post is factually correct.
But if everyone had that attitude, then no one would bother to vote.

And the difference is, your voting intention isn't only one vote. It's bigger than that, particularly in this day and age.

Dozens, if not hundreds of people will see your post on here. Some might be feeling disillusioned, not sure about Starmer and thinking they might do a protest vote against him. And seeing your posts validates that idea and makes them more likely to not vote for him.

They might feel emboldened to tell their butcher, who tells his accountant, who posts it on Facebook and it's seen by hundreds of other, and so on...

It's exactly how Brexit happened. People who weren't sure about the EU, but knew deep down Brexit was a bad idea. Seeing messages online promoting Brexit, validates the idea that it's not a crazy, self-harming thing to do.

It's basic behavioural science, there's a good article on it here https://compass.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/phc3.12658

If you lived in a log cabin and voted against Starmer out of protest that he's not Corbyny enough, I agree one isolated vote wouldn't make that much difference.

But being vocal about it with your peers, family, community and online, will have a far bigger net impact than that. Even if you, or they, don't realise it.
 
I wanted Corbyn to be PM but understand that he was maybe too left wing for many. But was it really necessary to switch to a guy who could easily be a Tory in the Ken Clarke mould.
Was there no-one else?
 
It's not about an arguement and to be honest that is a very tired cliched comment.

No one here who suppprts labour wants the tories to win or labour to lose, but they can still recognise a lying twat who is far removed from even centre left ideology and are right to express that concern.

Labour must win the next ellection, starmer is the biggest worry that it might not happe
The biggest worry it won't happen is if swing voters decide it's too big of a risk to vote Labour and stick with what they know with the Tories.

Starmer could don his beret and get on the picket line with a megaphone, and I'd love it. You'd love it. The whole Labour party would love it. He'd be the darling of the party.

But would it be more likely to get him to win the GE?

Would it mean swing voters in Kensington and Chingford and Peterborough were more likely to vote for him? Because that's who he needs to get in order to win the election.
 

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