Keir Starmer

Nandy would open FOM back up if she gained power, she’s just as clueless as the rest of them.
 
Everything's relative mate. And maybe if the country wasn't utterly fucked when "my knobs" got in, we'd be in better shape.

Anyway, please carry on. RLB for me :-)
We need a competent opposition (something we've not had for a while), this is good for the government not just those of us who don't like the government. And as for the country being fucked, yes it was. The international banking crisis did that. Anyway, I'm expecting the labour party membership to shoots themselves in their arses again and go with RLB. She will never be prime minister.
 
We need a competent opposition (something we've not had for a while), this is good for the government not just those of us who don't like the government. And as for the country being fucked, yes it was. The international banking crisis did that. Anyway, I'm expecting the labour party membership to shoots themselves in their arses again and go with RLB. She will never be prime minister.

I just can’t even begin to get my head around why after being given the hiding of the century why the labor membership would even contemplate voting in one of the key architects of that disaster. I haven’t read all the posts on this thread but if somebody is advocating RLB, can somebody explain to me what the strategy and thinking is behind her becoming leader? Feels like an episode of you’ve been framed and someone’s having a laugh with the country.

The country needs a competent, credible and electable alternative to this or any government.
 
I just can’t even begin to get my head around why after being given the hiding of the century why the labor membership would even contemplate voting in one of the key architects of that disaster. I haven’t read all the posts on this thread but if somebody is advocating RLB, can somebody explain to me what the strategy and thinking is behind her becoming leader? Feels like an episode of you’ve been framed and someone’s having a laugh with the country.
Simples. The strategy is that Harold Wilson, Michael Foot, Red Ed Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn were all on the right track, but the puplic just didn't get it. But they are bound to in the in end, so get rid of that silly anti-semitism nonsense, carry on as before and victory is in the bag.
 
Not read the thread but just seen the Bailey women is ahead of Starmer,she is corbyn mark 2,i can't vote for her either,another clusterfuck coming if she becomes leader,they are severley testing my patience
 
50 years since anyone other than Tony Blair won an election for Labour. And at least another 10 at this rate.
 
Simples. The strategy is that Harold Wilson, Michael Foot, Red Ed Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn were all on the right track, but the puplic just didn't get it. But they are bound to in the in end, so get rid of that silly anti-semitism nonsense, carry on as before and victory is in the bag.

Er, Harold Wilson won 2 elections and I don't think you can equate Wilson and Ed Miliband with Foot and Corbyn. Other than that, carry on ...
 
I think that argument doesn't really stand up now we have privately educated, former major and serial liar Boris Johnson being voted in by traditional Labour voters. If Starmer represents the coffee shop crew, what does Johnson represent, The Bullingdon Club? It clearly didn't do him any harm

Is he claiming an armed services history now?

Or did you miss out the word (major) "****"? In which case, there's no former about it; he still is!
 
Er, Harold Wilson won 2 elections and I don't think you can equate Wilson and Ed Miliband with Foot and Corbyn. Other than that, carry on ...
The point stands mate. The British electorate have consistently rejected hard left policies - and favoured right wing or centre ground ones - for the last half a century.

So good luck hoping to win any decade soon with hard left policies. We don't want them and demonstrably, don't vote for them. Bummer.
 
Just watched Andrew Neill on iplayer interviewing Jess Phillips. How is that serious journalism? You cannot surely ask a question, let the person being questioned say 6 words then attack the answer you think you are about to be given?

Politics is a joke in this country but there are a number of high profile journo's making a living with an unprofessional approach that Sir Robin Day and the like would just laugh at. Fuck me even Wogan was a better interviewer than some of them.
 
So left wing labour is shit but not quite as shit as the England football team in major tournaments. It’s coming home it’s coming home labours com......

Oh fuck it’s not.

Sir Harry Kane for the next labour leader.

You're in a right pickle.

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Go back to playing with your World Cup Willie.

 
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I just can’t even begin to get my head around why after being given the hiding of the century why the labor membership would even contemplate voting in one of the key architects of that disaster. I haven’t read all the posts on this thread but if somebody is advocating RLB, can somebody explain to me what the strategy and thinking is behind her becoming leader? Feels like an episode of you’ve been framed and someone’s having a laugh with the country.

The country needs a competent, credible and electable alternative to this or any government.

who would you suggest ?

because whoever is named gets the same sort of message thrown at them.

who would pass the test of being ‘competent, credible and electable’ in today’s world where anyone who is a party leader gets endless abuse and distain.
 

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