There's an important change that you seem to have completely overlooked.
Blair reset the political landscape in this country to where the majority of the electorate hold left of centre views.
They know it's achievable, and they know it works with capable people in charge.
Even looking at Johnson's "landslide" victory, the anti-Tory, progressive vote was bigger share of the electorate.
The biggest mistake Labour (more specifically the unions) ever made was appointing Ed Milliband instead of David. If David was appointed (as he should have been based on the democratic vote) there would have been another decade of Labour rule.
But by going down the hard left route of Ed and Corbyn, it allowed 12 years of Tory rule, no wonder they ripped up all of Blair's good work, they didn't have a viable opposition for 12 years!
Even if Blair had been as radical as you seem to have wanted, 12 years is plenty of time to completely rip apart anything he did.
The difference with Attlee and Wilson is, while they might have made drastic changes in a short time, they were just blips where people wanted a change from the Tories, but quickly went back to them after one term.
Whereas they may have effected bigger structural changes like the NHS and better pensions, they didn't shift the political positions of the general public in the same way.
With Labour's first left of centre leader since Blair, they look on course for victory again. That wouldn't have happened without him.
Hopefully if Starmer gets in to power, the last 12 years will be a sobering lesson for Labour that things can get better, and stay better, if they stick to the strategies and policies that can effect tangible change in people's lives, instead of pie in the sky wishful thinking.
Blair reset the political landscape did he? Even you know that's not true.
Hows that landscape looking now?
It's all Ed Milliband and Corbyn's fault is it?
The masses should know their place and be grateful for the crumbs off the table, coz if they don't then they'll get Johnson and his ilk and no crumbs at all.
All hail the third way.
Personally I hope neither of them will be chosen with an overall majority and I suspect that many people feel that way. A large number of people will end up voting based more on who they don't want.Well if you don't choose either of them, one of them will be chosen for you based on who you do actually vote for.
Of course Blair reset the political landscape!
There had been 18 years of continuous Tory rule, 11 years of fucking Thatcher!
No Labour PM had served 2 consecutive terms and he won 3 landslides in a row.
If that's not resetting the political landscape, then resetting the political landscape doesn't exist.
It's not all Ed and Jez's fault. It's the Unions who appointed them too. And their enablers.
The "masses" actually don't want Ed and Jez, that's why the masses didn't vote for them. It's a small clique of idealogues that want Ed and Jez, and it was them who guaranteed we ended up with Johnson and Truss, because the masses would never vote for Ed and Jez.
The masses want the Third Way, that's why they elected a Third Way leader with 3 landslides, and why it's looking like they're going to elect the very next Third Way option they were presented with.
As much as Starmer hasn’t blown anyone’s socks off yet, I don’t think he represents an evil of any sort.Personally I hope neither of them will be chosen with an overall majority and I suspect that many people feel that way. A large number of people will end up voting based more on who they don't want.
Maybe one day we'll have a system in place where more people feel that they can vote for a party that represents their core values/beliefs, rather than a lesser of two evils choice.
Starmer is getting his arse kicked by Labour members in Liverpool and not a peep out of the media about it.
Shows how he's being differently by them compared to the old leader.
I agree, it's a different time and it's unlikely he'll inherit the economic conditions to be able to have as big an impact as 1997.
People can say what they like about Starmer, he's a bit stiff and a bit awkward, he's not got the charisma of a Blair, or even a Johnson.
But no one could dispute he's a good man. A capable man. A man of integrity and moral fibre and someone who wants what's best for ordinary people. That's very much what we need right now as a country imo.
He might not make every decision you agree with regards to mail, water, rail etc. He clearly believes in private enterprise and having a growing economy in order to properly fund public services, and that's where the similarities with Blair come from.
I've been pretty underwhelmed with Starmer (other than when he was filleting Johnson when the HOP were empty due to Covid), but I thought he came across really well on this podcast, I'd really encourage you to listen to it (it's actually the number one podcast in the country and isn't partisan to either side).
He comes across a lot more relaxed and you can see he's not a self-serving dick head like the rabble in charge at the moment.
Aren‘t they all Tories in Liverpool?Starmer is getting his arse kicked by Labour members in Liverpool and not a peep out of the media about it.
Shows how he's being differently by them compared to the old leader.
Are you a party member , sound just like one. Members of all parties seem to believe the party is there for their own egos and ideology. Don’t give a toss about the country and the real world. Shame because a Labour party that the public wanted rather than a Labour party for it’s members could have saved a lot of damage done to the country over the last 8 years.One landslide, then lost votes over and over until inevitably they lost an election.
Clearly you don't understand what changing the political landscape means. Prime Minister Attlee changed the political landscape and it lasted thirty years, Thatcher changed it for another thirty, all the other PMs operated in their shadow.
Clearly you share one thing in common with all third wayers, you believe the problem with the Labour Party is the Party itself. You're like a parasite, hitching a ride on a host you hate, lying to it, then emasculating it.
You come across all Billy Big Bollocks, but there's a real hint of desperation. If, as you say, the masses want the third way then why don't you fuck off and start a true third way party and give it to them, then you can leave the Labour Party to decay and die, you clearly fucking hate it.
PS: I always get a vision of guys like you screaming "why won't people do as they're told!, Don't they realise it's for their own good!"