Keir Starmer

Postman Pep said:
I thought he said *a* shadow minister rather than *the*.
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I've given you a video clip.

Did you watch it?

"Shadow Secretary of state", there was only one person with that title and it wasn't him.

He gave several interviews, he didn't make the mistake of promoting himself in the interview with the BBC,so why do it with Sky and not correct himself?

He wanted to be sacked.
 
Sky News had an interview with CWU GS who slammed BT for making massive profits, bosses giving themselves huge pay rises, as well as extensive payouts of dividends, while the workers get poorer.

5 minutes later, Sky forget about this and just re-run the part where they ask him about Starmer and the Unions.

On a similar note, on ITV, for the first time I heard somebody mention about how the NHS is being privatised. As soon as mentioned, subject changed and a Tory then basically turns it 180 and says it has to be. Subject ends.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
I've given you a video clip.

Did you watch it?

"Shadow Secretary of state", there was only one person with that title and it wasn't him.

He gave several interviews, he didn't make the mistake of promoting himself in the interview with the BBC,so why do it with Sky and not correct himself?

He wanted to be sacked.
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I honestly think that this is no accident and has been set-up as a power play.

Just prior to the interview you could see him hanging around in the background, not interacting with the guys on the line but set himself just at the side with a wry smile on his face, eyeing the camera.

I’m not a defender of Labour, or any party for that matter, but this whole pantomime seems like it was very much staged.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
labourlist.org

Starmer faces dissent as frontbenchers join RMT workers on picket lines - LabourList

80% of train services were axed during the 24-hour RMT strike on Tuesday. RMT general secretary Mick Lynch…
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Why was he claiming to be shadow Secretary of State?

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Postman Pep said:
I thought he said *a* shadow minister rather than *the*.
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I think he did say "a", but he claimed to be shadow secretary of state - there is only one such position in the Dept and it wasn't him.
He definitely overstated his position.
Sky's wording on the tweet is poor at best and deliberately misdirecting at worst.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I think he did say "a", but he claimed to be shadow secretary of state - there is only one such position in the Dept and it wasn't him.
He definitely overstated his position.
Sky's wording on the tweet is poor at best and deliberately misdirecting at worst.
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It doesn’t really matter, does it?

He shouldn’t have been public ally sacked like that.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Sky News had an interview with CWU GS who slammed BT for making massive profits, bosses giving themselves huge pay rises, as well as extensive payouts of dividends, while the workers get poorer.

5 minutes later, Sky forget about this and just re-run the part where they ask him about Starmer and the Unions.

On a similar note, on ITV, for the first time I heard somebody mention about how the NHS is being privatised. As soon as mentioned, subject changed and a Tory then basically turns it 180 and says it has to be. Subject ends.
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I don’t usually quote my own posts, along with another recent post about Tarry, but need to add.

When watching the CWU GS interview I thought I seen Tarry hanging around in the background, eyeing the camera once again. Didn’t mention it as I was unsure but, low and behold, it was him and he’s now on Sky giving an interview.

I think I see what’s happening. He’s basically saying that Starmer is wrong and it’s the left that will be the saviour of the British people. We will see how it pans out but, to me, it looks like the left are staging some kind of coup.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
It doesn’t really matter, does it?

He shouldn’t have been public ally sacked like that.
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Doing it like it was done makes it easy to portray that it was about joining a picket line.

Not knowing the details of any conversation, or what internal rules there are, if he committed a sackable offence, he had to be sacked. Can't not sack someone because it looks bad.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Doing it like it was done makes it easy to portray that it was about joining a picket line.

Not knowing the details of any conversation, or what internal rules there are, if he committed a sackable offence, he had to be sacked. Can't not sack someone because it looks bad.
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People are still arguing about whether it was a sackable offence though. Did he say A or The?

Who cares? It dilutes the RMT dispute too.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
People are still arguing about whether it was a sackable offence though. Did he say A or The?

Who cares? It dilutes the RMT dispute too.
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Whatever he did he was still right about the overall message of ‘We need to make a stand against this current repressive regime’. The problem is that it’s now all lost with the media moving in to tar Starmer and the Labour movement.

We look at the Tories and laugh at how they’re ripping themselves apart when the exact same can be said about Labour.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Whatever he did he was still right about the overall message of ‘We need to make a stand against this current repressive regime’. The problem is that it’s now all lost with the media moving in to tar Starmer and the Labour movement.

We look at the Tories and laugh at how they’re ripping themselves apart when the exact same can be said about Labour.
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Labour need to go on an empathy course. That’s the most important emotion that they need to portray. People are struggling.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
I don’t usually quote my own posts, along with another recent post about Tarry, but need to add.

When watching the CWU GS interview I thought I seen Tarry hanging around in the background, eyeing the camera once again. Didn’t mention it as I was unsure but, low and behold, it was him and he’s now on Sky giving an interview.

I think I see what’s happening. He’s basically saying that Starmer is wrong and it’s the left that will be the saviour of the British people. We will see how it pans out but, to me, it looks like the left are staging some kind of coup.
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I don't think they have the power to do that.

It's almost certainly planned, but I think it's more that Sam Tarry is just trying to promote himself as he is facing deselection. He's going to have to win a selection contest if he wants to remain as an MP, and I'd guess the higher his profile, the more likely he'll be able to get people to turn up and vote for him.
 
bluenova said:
I don't think they have the power to do that.

It's almost certainly planned, but I think it's more that Sam Tarry is just trying to promote himself as he is facing deselection. He's going to have to win a selection contest if he wants to remain as an MP, and I'd guess the higher his profile, the more likely he'll be able to get people to turn up and vote for him.
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That would make it even worse, putting his own needs in front of his party and the country as a whole? I wouldn’t want to think he’d be using the strike for his own purposes either but nothing would surprise me.

That’s not leadership, that selfishness.
 
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