Keir Starmer

They always say a week is a long time in politics, and this is just that, simple as.

If I was the PM I wouldn't have gone to that concert, but maybe I would have gone to the AC/DC one in July, and got to hang out with Angus Young, and Brian Johnson which would have been great for me.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I expect it’s going to be something short of ‘special’.

Estranged from Europe, and on bad terms with the US. What a fucking state of affairs and shows how irrelevant we’ve made ourselves. So much for taking back control…
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He’s building closer ties with EU and doing far more diplomacy with EU nations than Boris and Co did.

As for Trumps dystopian America

www.independent.co.uk

Yes, the US-UK special relationship is in jeopardy –but it’s not because of Starmer

Trump is no friend of Britain and seems grateful for the slightest excuse to display his contempt for the British. He is indeed the ‘America First’ candidate – the rest of the world comes a very distant second, writes Sean O’Grady
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
BlueHammer85 said:
He’s building closer ties with EU and doing far more diplomacy with EU nations than Boris and Co did.
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That’s plain wrong. When Russia mounted its second Ukraine invasion, EU countries were not enthusiastic about responding. Boris sent teams to every EU capital to persuade them to act. His success in that endeavour is just about the only good thing he did. He is a hero in Ukraine with Streets and squares named after him.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I expect it’s going to be something short of ‘special’.

Estranged from Europe, and on bad terms with the US. What a fucking state of affairs and shows how irrelevant we’ve made ourselves. So much for taking back control…
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“On bad terms with US”
Surely not.
 
How many shares can you own then before you stop being a working person?

Good to see Starmer hasn’t painted himself into a corner on these ridiculous questions. One step ahead at all times.
 
Brewster's millions said:
How many shares can you own then before you stop being a working person?

Good to see Starmer hasn’t painted himself into a corner on these ridiculous questions. One step ahead at all times.
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Aren't most pension schemes share based other than the public sector? This seems to be setting up private sector workers against public sector workers. Seems an own goal.
 
Palerider said:
Aren't most pension schemes share based other than the public sector? This seems to be setting up private sector workers against public sector workers. Seems an own goal.
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Just more RW propaganda being spread to get people frothing.

Nobody, Tory or Labour, is going for pensions, but if people would like to argue how they are, I’m all ears.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Just more RW propaganda being spread to get people frothing.

Nobody, Tory or Labour, is going for pensions, but if people would like to argue how they are, I’m all ears.
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Plenty of rumours about the tax free pension lump sum being hit hence many people removing their's pre budget. Many public sector workers have the gold plated final salary pension whilst many private sector workers have a pension dependent on stocks and share performance. So I would imagine that lots more private sector workers have a direct interest in shares and stock market performance.
 
Palerider said:
Plenty of rumours about the tax free pension lump sum being hit hence many people removing their's pre budget. Many public sector workers have the gold plated final salary pension whilst many private sector workers have a pension dependent on stocks and share performance. So I would imagine that lots more private sector workers have a direct interest in shares and stock market performance.
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Rumours? I wonder where these rumours come from as I’m sure they confirmed it wasn’t part of their plan early on in their tenure.
 
Palerider said:
Plenty of rumours about the tax free pension lump sum being hit hence many people removing their's pre budget. Many public sector workers have the gold plated final salary pension whilst many private sector workers have a pension dependent on stocks and share performance. So I would imagine that lots more private sector workers have a direct interest in shares and stock market performance.
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The use of that phrase should mean the rest of your post is ignored. The majority of public sector workers do not have final salary pension schemes.

Anyone in the LG pension scheme also has their pensions invested in the stock market.
 
Palerider said:
Plenty of rumours about the tax free pension lump sum being hit hence many people removing their's pre budget. Many public sector workers have the gold plated final salary pension whilst many private sector workers have a pension dependent on stocks and share performance. So I would imagine that lots more private sector workers have a direct interest in shares and stock market performance.
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Anyone making knee jerk decisions based on budget rumours related to possibly hundreds of thousands of pounds of their pensions needs their heads examining.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
The use of that phrase should mean the rest of your post is ignored. The majority of public sector workers do not have final salary pension schemes.

Anyone in the LG pension scheme also has their pensions invested in the stock market.
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The ONS estimate that over 80% of public sector workers have a defined benefit pension, although that figure (the latest available it seems) was from 2019.

Also, although the LG pension scheme is funded and therefore invested in the market, it is still defined benefit, and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that members in that scheme will be less concerned about market performance than someone with a defined contribution pension.
 
Brewster's millions said:
The ONS estimate that over 80% of public sector workers have a defined benefit pension, although that figure (the latest available it seems) was from 2019.

Also, although the LG pension scheme is funded and therefore invested in the market, it is still defined benefit, and so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that members in that scheme will be less concerned about market performance than someone with a defined contribution pension.
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According to Google currently 82% public and only 8% private.
 
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