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Kelechi Iheanacho
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andyhinch
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There's been space every time he played BonyI think the point they made wqass that Pellegrini had made space for him in the team, whereas the Rags had been forced into playing their youth players.
malg
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Yep, I don't think anyone could argue against that. I suppose the only defence would be that he gave Bony enough chances to prove himself, and now he's finally realised that the bloke isn't up to it?There's been space every time he played Bony
Georgian Maestro
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You call that developing strikers ??
Jason Beckford = 4 in 53
Mike Sheron = 24 in 100 for City and 126 in 490 career
Leon Mike = 5 in 50
Bradley Wright Phillips = 2 in 32 for City, 77 in 240 in England and 45 in 80 in USA
Ched Evans = 1 in 16 for City and 52 in 131 career
Ishmael Miller = 39 in 207
Not a great deal to crow about all told.
No, never said that. It's not a success story by any means, just the number of strikers we've brought through.
The rags have been poor in the same time period too. Other than Rashford and Rossi I'm struggling to name any others. David Healey?
Neville Kneville
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Tbh if you saw Rashford play at kids' level there was no comparison. Kelechi in his brief spell at the academy was on another level entirely as a footballer & Rashford was a kid who would not have been sure of a place in any of City's sides at any age group as he came through.
It's the same with most of the kids who have come through to play for Utd. They were not better or in many cases as good as their direct counterparts at City. The biggest difference is that they were being prepared to play whereas ours were being prepared to watch them play.
No way would you have swapped Barker, Ambrose, Boadu etc for Rashford.
Kelechi looked on another planet in comparison & I suspect that will probably end up being the case long term, but tbf to Rashford, some kids do go up several levels when they get time in the first team & surprise/shock everyone.
Something many on here who defend Pellegrini are completely ignorant about regarding developing young players.
The thing about Kelechi, is that what we are seeing now, is the tip of the iceberg. The goals are a kind of bonus talent but not necessarily his main talent. He startrd to show a bit yesterday, dropping deep, playing passes, beating players. That's the part of his game which would have been developed at first team level this season by a proper manager.
The power in the shot, the run from deep. All this stuff is Kelechi. Not a tap in scorer. He'a a No 10 who can run & pass & dribble, shoot etc and may be as good or better at it than KDB once he gets enough games. Even Manuel has mentioned this ability.
Rashford is what we see now. Kelechi is just warming up.
It's the same with most of the kids who have come through to play for Utd. They were not better or in many cases as good as their direct counterparts at City. The biggest difference is that they were being prepared to play whereas ours were being prepared to watch them play.
No way would you have swapped Barker, Ambrose, Boadu etc for Rashford.
Kelechi looked on another planet in comparison & I suspect that will probably end up being the case long term, but tbf to Rashford, some kids do go up several levels when they get time in the first team & surprise/shock everyone.
Something many on here who defend Pellegrini are completely ignorant about regarding developing young players.
The thing about Kelechi, is that what we are seeing now, is the tip of the iceberg. The goals are a kind of bonus talent but not necessarily his main talent. He startrd to show a bit yesterday, dropping deep, playing passes, beating players. That's the part of his game which would have been developed at first team level this season by a proper manager.
The power in the shot, the run from deep. All this stuff is Kelechi. Not a tap in scorer. He'a a No 10 who can run & pass & dribble, shoot etc and may be as good or better at it than KDB once he gets enough games. Even Manuel has mentioned this ability.
Rashford is what we see now. Kelechi is just warming up.
cucumberman
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Mulling over this because Rashford looks the part, even more than that Martial. This rashford looks dangerous at times, while martial seems to have been found out and having been frustrated at getting his runs cut and not able to beat his man. wont trade for kelechi though who has more to his game than goals.
credit to MOTD for pointing out the reason why the media hasnt waxed lyrical about kelechi. Although on the grande scheme of things its for the best. In interviews kelechi has shown admirable humility. Last night it was apparent that through bated breath he wants to play in the CL. I hope he understands that he will getbhis chances in the near future.
credit to MOTD for pointing out the reason why the media hasnt waxed lyrical about kelechi. Although on the grande scheme of things its for the best. In interviews kelechi has shown admirable humility. Last night it was apparent that through bated breath he wants to play in the CL. I hope he understands that he will getbhis chances in the near future.
Nascent Blues
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Rashford has a very, VERY big pointy nose. Nacho doesn't and is superb.
its a Barm
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Well for me they both look like they have a big future ahead of them, the next 12 months will tell us more.
ali benarbia's studs
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I think the point they made wqass that Pellegrini had made space for him in the team, whereas the Rags had been forced into playing their youth players.
....because the rags are $hit, you forgot that bit blue. ;)
its a Barm
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It's best not to get to rag like and get to excited over Nacho.
It's fair to say if he played for them he would defo be the new Pele or law or best.
It's fair to say if he played for them he would defo be the new Pele or law or best.
It pains me to see all this hype about Rashford. It makes me sick hearing all my rag friends gloating about him. Kelechi is clearly much better than him and would've performed better than him if given the chance. It's even more painful anytime I see Bony playing over him like in that West Brom game. Wish Pellers would've given him more minutes - meaningful minutes and not just the last 5 mins of a match. What I'm afraid is that he might not get his chance with Pep either, especially since Pep wants to bring in a new backup Striker.
Stats comparison:
Kelechi - 9 goals 1 assist in 432 mins played.
Rashford - 7 goals 1 assist in 773 mins played.
so what we have to overhype kelechi like the others do ? its typical you ( maybe not you) blame the others over the players hyping then want to do the same are we becoming Arsenal ? the player need to keep working harder harder and hopefully its going to pay. so no need of this showing off players like toys.
malg
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Oh, there is that as well. That fucking Elvis fella, I think he was called the new Ronaldo after a game or two, appears to be on his way out.....because the rags are $hit, you forgot that bit blue. ;)
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Watched MotD this morning and the presenter asked Keown and Gullit why there was so much more attention being paid to Rashford than Nacho.
They mentioned all sorts of things, such as he's English, has played more recently, etc, but failed to come out with the most glaringly obvious reason: he's a rag.
As for who is better, there's little to choose between them, though they are different type of players. Rashford has produced some great finishes, notably the one at ours, but Kelechi has all sorts of attributes: he is lightning quick in his reactions (goal at Palace) and he has a cool head to n front of goal (penalty at Villa, one-on-ones at Villa and yesterday) and he's very fast over the ground.
I would say that Iheanacho is the better all-round footballer, but I wouldn't be upset if Rashford were to join City.
They mentioned all sorts of things, such as he's English, has played more recently, etc, but failed to come out with the most glaringly obvious reason: he's a rag.
As for who is better, there's little to choose between them, though they are different type of players. Rashford has produced some great finishes, notably the one at ours, but Kelechi has all sorts of attributes: he is lightning quick in his reactions (goal at Palace) and he has a cool head to n front of goal (penalty at Villa, one-on-ones at Villa and yesterday) and he's very fast over the ground.
I would say that Iheanacho is the better all-round footballer, but I wouldn't be upset if Rashford were to join City.
malg
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Yep. Now Rashford may be different, but every Rag youngster over the last 10 years has been ridiculously over hyped and has come crashing down to earth. Maybe overhyping them brought unrealistic expectations. I'm more than happy that Iheanacho isn't being called the new Messi, or has full back page spreads in the tabloids.so what we have to overhype kelechi like the others do ? its typical you ( maybe not you) blame the others over the players hyping then want to do the same are we becoming Arsenal ? the player need to keep working harder harder and hopefully its going to pay. so no need of this showing off players like toys.
HamannCheese
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the players rarely celebrate with Kelechi when he scores?
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the players rarely celebrate with Kelechi when he scores?
Some have stated that the players give him time to do a prayer for his mother, and then go over to celebrate afterwards. Not sure if true.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the players rarely celebrate with Kelechi when he scores?
Have you seen the celebrations when he scored the late winner at Palace? No one is going to go crazy with the 3rd and 4th against Stoke when we're cruising.
Delphacito
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I was talking more about Kelechi getting his chance though mate.so what we have to overhype kelechi like the others do ? its typical you ( maybe not you) blame the others over the players hyping then want to do the same are we becoming Arsenal ? the player need to keep working harder harder and hopefully its going to pay. so no need of this showing off players like toys.
OB1
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Yep. Now Rashford may be different, but every Rag youngster over the last 10 years has been ridiculously over hyped and has come crashing down to earth. Maybe overhyping them brought unrealistic expectations. I'm more than happy that Iheanacho isn't being called the new Messi, or has full back page spreads in the tabloids.
Nacho has been protected so far, I'd like to think deliberately so, and the less hype the better. Stones and Barkley have both been hyped up by their manager and are currently struggling.
Let the media focus elsewhere whilst City, hopefully, slowly but surely develop Nacho into a world beater.