Kevin De Bruyne - 2017/18 performances

[CityInWashingtonState]

I'm a Belgian and a city fan, i get why we wouldn't want Martinez to play Kev if there was the slightest opportunity of injury beyond normal circumstances. Otoh i also do get why much of our players like Vinny for one wouldn't want to miss a lot of NT matches.

I do sense a very different sentiment regarding international football between England and Belgium in as much as people and players value it with the nationalist connotations it could possibly have. English football seems in a somewhat depressed and cynical mood with various gennerations having failed to meet up to arguably high expectation.
As a small country Belgians can already be happy if our NT is actually relevant, we have certaintly been absent of a lot of tournaments in the last decades and that did hurt. I mean it's one thing to have a big team performing under par, another to simply lack the quality to be relevant and unable to blame anyone for it. Our belgian NT never had such high expectations to begin with, we had some good gennerations and we were genneraly proud even if only they managed to qualify. Nowadays these are exciting times for us.

Try to immagine what it must be for the Belgian players. They are gennerally loved in Belgium, and imho the press certaintly aint that critical or even "gutter level" here as it often is in the UK. And they have the opportunity to become legends for a small country that had relativly few nationalistic high points.

It's unreasonable of fans to expect that a player in his prime forego International competition for the sake of his club. Patriotism alone dictates otherwise.

In the case of Kompany and Belgium - I think that the blame for injury is probably more the fault of Kompany than Martinez.

Martinez wants to develop chemistry in his back line - with so few games to do so, he should absolutely start his best side even in friendlies.

But Kompany is massively injury prone - and Kompany himself knows this. Kompany needs to play very carefully in all games - and in meaningless games, needs to simply give up on challenges - no diving in, no stretching for tackles, no ultra fast exceleration - just let the play go.

Kompany currently is playing far too aggressively for such an injury prone player, IMO - Pep and Martinez both need to reinforce the importance of avoiding injury, IMO; and presumably they've done so.

Probably, it's up to Kompany to play in a style that minimizes injury.

 

[FlemishDuck]

It's unreasonable of fans to expect that a player in his prime forego International competition for the sake of his club. Patriotism alone dictates otherwise.

In the case of Kompany and Belgium - I think that the blame for injury is probably more the fault of Kompany than Martinez.

Martinez wants to develop chemistry in his back line - with so few games to do so, he should absolutely start his best side even in friendlies.

But Kompany is massively injury prone - and Kompany himself knows this. Kompany needs to play very carefully in all games - and in meaningless games, needs to simply give up on challenges - no diving in, no stretching for tackles, no ultra fast exceleration - just let the play go.

Kompany currently is playing far too aggressively for such an injury prone player, IMO - Pep and Martinez both need to reinforce the importance of avoiding injury, IMO; and presumably they've done so.

Probably, it's up to Kompany to play in a style that minimizes injury.

I can agree to that in regards to Kompany, certaintly he isn't doing us a favor neither if he gets injured.

As his position within the NT, Kompany has always been very prolific, he was the first of this golden genneration so to say, already world class when players like hazard, KDB and Lukaku still had a lot to prove, and by that token had a lot of weight and responsabillety on his shoulder, which was also logical for the reason that company is very good at leadership. Still our captain. I think he feels kinda obliged to be there, and likely quite sad for having become something of a glass man.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I can agree to that in regards to Kompany, certaintly he isn't doing us a favor neither if he gets injured.

As his position within the NT, Kompany has always been very prolific, he was the first of this golden genneration so to say, already world class when players like hazard, KDB and Lukaku still had a lot to prove, and by that token had a lot of weight and responsabillety on his shoulder, which was also logical for the reason that company is very good at leadership. Still our captain. I think he feels kinda obliged to be there, and likely quite sad for having become something of a glass man.

Well explained,cheers for that

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

On 30 man Ballon D'or shortlist. Of course the headline mentions Kane, Kante and De Gea being on it but not him!

 

[FlemishDuck]

If Kev keeps developing further while guys like Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez getting old, i see a good chance for him to win it at some point.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

If Kev keeps developing further while guys like Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez getting old, i see a good chance for him to win it at some point.

Perhaps - but strikers win it most often (competing against Neymar/MBappe) once Messi/Ronaldo decline, and very talented attacking midfielders in the game (Isco) and meanwhile Pep seems to be moving KDB deeper.

KDB is a great player - but doesn't play in a position that usually leads to a Ballon D'or award.

 

[FlemishDuck]

nice video by Umaxit



Also, regarding the pronunciation with "de Bruyne" and English speaking people logically still struggling typicaly saying it as "de Broyne" because the sound of the flemisch "uy" hardly exist in English, i think i found a easier way for English to pronounce it more correct more easily. The Flemmisch "u" doesn't sound like the english at all, english "u" sound more like "yu" whereas the Flemmisch "u" sounds pretty much like "euh". (as in the sound you make when confused)

Therefore, i think it's best to just pronounce it "de Br-euh-ne" when youre english, that gets close enough. If you want to pronounce the "y" aswell, well then the enligh "y" sounds more like "why" whereas the Flemmisch "y" sounds more like a shortened "e", i mean where the english "e" sounds more like "ee" the flemmisch "e" would be the same said in half the time. So then "De Br-euh-e-ne" would be pretty much spot on.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Nice to see him being given a rest tonight

 

[ozfunghi]

nice video by Umaxit



Also, regarding the pronunciation with "de Bruyne" and English speaking people logically still struggling typicaly saying it as "de Broyne" because the sound of the flemisch "uy" hardly exist in English, i think i found a easier way for English to pronounce it more correct more easily. The Flemmisch "u" doesn't sound like the english at all, english "u" sound more like "yu" whereas the Flemmisch "u" sounds pretty much like "euh". (as in the sound you make when confused)

Therefore, i think it's best to just pronounce it "de Br-euh-ne" when youre english, that gets close enough. If you want to pronounce the "y" aswell, well then the enligh "y" sounds more like "why" whereas the Flemmisch "y" sounds more like a shortened "e", i mean where the english "e" sounds more like "ee" the flemmisch "e" would be the same said in half the time. So then "De Br-euh-e-ne" would be pretty much spot on.

Don't listen to whatever this guy is babbling about, lol. (How does a "u" sound like "yu" in a word like "run" or "pull"? :-) ).

For a non-Dutch / English speaker, who wants to pronounce De Bruyne as close to correct with sounds known from English, you should quite simply say "the burner". Then go on and make that "de brurner". That's as close as native English speakers will come to pronouncing his name correctly.

 

[mccity]

This pronunciation debate ought to be fun. Anyone who watches that City video where he tells you how to pronounce it is a cheater.