Kloppy

[TCIB]

Scraping it to me wouldn't have involved the brilliant performances of the early season imo.
The match we scraped yes, the championship we didn't scrape which is what the fella i quoted said we did.

The definition of scraping something is to succeed by a narrow margin. I would say that winning a title on goal difference is a narrow margin, wouldn't you?
I don't know how you can compare Klopp and Mancini... one built a team from the ground upwards with a minimal budget, reaching the semis of the Champions League and overhauling the traditional German powerhouses Bayern Munich domestically for two seasons in a row, the other has had hundreds of millions of pounds to burn and has only returned a tanned backside in Europe and a scraped Premiership.

Yes, I agree Dortmund scraped past Malaga, both sides are impressive and well managed so one losing to the other is no disgrace. Dortmund's second team made us look foolish in Germany when we were going for 3rd spot, that Malaga could come so close to winning there is comparatively impressive.

No i wouldn't because as a blue i look at is as pipped them at the post of a long season.
The negative manner of your posts after just joining have me dubious basically and i don't trust you or the fella above.

You could easily say We have clawed in the traditional top 4 not 1 but 4 and smashed that dominance and we came short this year.
I accept Klopp looks the biz in europe but the way your embelishing your posts with a totally negative vibe on Mancini seems suspect.

After all it is the time of year for the troll to come out ;)

Personally i'm happy with whatever the owners choose so not a die hard mancini fan either but you seem to disregard any good Mancini has done.

Edit:: I'm of to watch planet earth, don't have to much fun in the manager related threads now :)

 

[GeekinGav]

would have taken Herr Klump before xmas .... we'd struggle to get him now.

 

[harry the plumber]

Nobody has won anything until they win something. His performance vs money spent track record certainly suggests he'd do much better than a scraped Premiership and two Champions League group stage exits in four years at Manchester City.

And Arsenal were an away goal from knocking out the mighty Bayern.
Perhaps Wengers the man?
The premier league is won over 38 games. No team scrapes it!!!

We scored 2 goals in stoppage time to avoid not winning, I think by definition that is called "scraping it".

Bayern vs Arsenal was a strange match, Bayern trounced them in the first leg then seemed to rest on their laurels, so it's difficult to use that match alone as evidence of managerial genius.

Hypothetically I don't think Arsene Wenger is as bad as you are intimating; I would never want him at Manchester City because defensively his side would be infuriating, however he's definitely been unfairly lambasted for a team that are much more hampered by financial restraints.

We won the league on goal differance because we beat the previous champions 6-1 on their own patch.That is not scraping it.
If a team gets through on away goals that i called scraping it.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

All this really is outrageous. Mancini is now getting slagged off because we "scraped" the title as though this somehow invalidates our title. The fact is that we finished top of the title, any way that leagues throughout the world work it out we were top and United were second - on goal difference, goal average or head to head. We smashed our nearest challengers and no City fans ever questioned our triumph. And for City fans to argue that it isn't good enough for them now is an absolute disgrace for which they should be thoroughly ashamed. To do it to denigrate the manager is even worse, whether Klopp can walk on water, feed five thousand with one sardine or even empty OT quicker than a derby day defeat doesn't matter. We have a manger who won the title and won it well and won it deservedly. So whatever you do, stick that in your pipe and smoke it - you'll see things straighter than when you smoke the stuff you're on now.

 

[oldius]

I have said it before in this thread and others. Mancini has been a successful manager both here and abroad, I do not understand why people want him replaced after what he has done for us.

The emperor's new clothes do not always fit. We have had more managers in my lifetime than possibly any other club and we have had no success, until now. We have absolutely no idea if any other manager in the world would be more successful than one who has delivered a league championship, FA cup and charity shield in just a couple of seasons. He's also done it in a league recognised as one of the very toughest in world football, with a cartel at the top, protected by media fury and with their tentacles infiltrating the administration of the game.

I say bravo to Mancini and I am gripped at the thought that the club, whose ground I could see from the flat where my Dad held me up to the window as a baby, now stand at the foothills of a journey to the top of the pinnacle of world football. Stand together blues and climb those treacherous slopes together.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

My point is, you can't even mention another manager on here without getting slagged by the pro Mancinis. I have never and wouldn't ever slag a fellow blue for havin an opinion. Just a bit of humour. That's all.

He doesn't care about your opinion, it was your pissy toy's out the pram reply, the tone of it which is very annoying.
If you don't like the reaction to a sarky pissy comment don't make them or don't post them it is simple.

the thing that annoys me is that some Mancini loving, thought police, fucking ball bag can come on a thread, say that everyone who has a different opinion on the manager needs to "give their fucking head a wobble" without adding anything to the debate and apparently that is fine. If someone dares to merely respond sarcastically then they get all manner of grief.

 

[Frosty-MCFC]

Kloppster.

 

[Goose_Grease]

And Arsenal were an away goal from knocking out the mighty Bayern.
Perhaps Wengers the man?
The premier league is won over 38 games. No team scrapes it!!!

We scored 2 goals in stoppage time to avoid not winning, I think by definition that is called "scraping it".

Bayern vs Arsenal was a strange match, Bayern trounced them in the first leg then seemed to rest on their laurels, so it's difficult to use that match alone as evidence of managerial genius.

Hypothetically I don't think Arsene Wenger is as bad as you are intimating; I would never want him at Manchester City because defensively his side would be infuriating, however he's definitely been unfairly lambasted for a team that are much more hampered by financial restraints.

We won the league on goal differance because we beat the previous champions 6-1 on their own patch.That is not scraping it.
If a team gets through on away goals that i called scraping it.

Struggling to see where the confusion is here. As defined on thefreedictionary.com
"To succeed or manage with difficulty: scraped through by a narrow margin." The league took place over 38 games, we scored twice in the last few minutes of the last game to win on goal difference.

That you reference the 6-1 Manchester United win is ironic; how can a team with players capable of doing that end up only just scraping the league?

 

[Balti]

klopptropp

 

[blueju]

Everyone seems to think we scraped the league because the rags threw it away. I'd say WE tried throwing it away over the Christmas period and showed absolutely barnstorming resolve and determination to claw back our lead over those last seven or eight games. We thoroughly deserved the title and those rag bastards deserve to be remembered as bottlers.

I can't understand blues letting this seasons disappointment change their outlook on last seasons achievement , only happy when they're miserable some people. Mancini deserves to be judged on this season but last season?