Kloppy

[TCIB]

Also remember it's transfer season almost bud :D

Some lads are on edge or perma pissed of with all the random and wild speculation at this time of year also aka the transfer forum.
It's actually funny as long as you don't get dragged into it.

 

[Phil1]

My point is, you can't even mention another manager on here without getting slagged by the pro Mancinis. I have never and wouldn't ever slag a fellow blue for havin an opinion. Just a bit of humour. That's all.

He doesn't care about your opinion, it was your pissy toy's out the pram reply, the tone of it which is very annoying.
If you don't like the reaction to a sarky pissy comment don't make them or don't post them it is simple.

The pro Mancini's are only defending what is reasonable to defend and some find it exasperating when people go of on some fantasy football dreamland tangent.
Or if someone seems totally ungrateful for what he has done etc etc.


It was pissy toys out of the pram at all. It was a bit of fun just forgot the smiley. Who was I replyin to anyway? Whatever, doesn't warrant bein called a dick. I admit it was sarcy, but it was written with a big smile on my face. If you read any of my posts, you won't see me slaggin Mancini, I'm just not a fan of his. Now do you think your mate, who doesn't care for my opinion, can bring himself to apologise for callin me a.....a word I'm not supposed to use on here? We may have stood side by side on many occasions before. Maybe even in The Parkside.


I am not saying you did that but i can still understand them wanting to rebuke your points.

The comment I responded to did make you sound like a bit of a dick though - don't worry I'm sure there are plenty of my own that people would draw the same conclusion about me.
I've said time and time again on here that wanting Mancini gone doesn't make you a bad fan, there are plenty of reasons for having that opinion. It's the snide remarks that try and dismiss his achievements that tend to get a shitty response from me - I don't see why there is a need to belittle our boss in order to big up another. That's all there is to it.

 

[SuperYaya]

Tbh I think one reason we'll keep Bob is because there's been transfer planning for months for players he's chosen. If we replace him all that work could be pointless and we'd end up paying more for players.

 

[cityboy1]

Tbh I think one reason we'll keep Bob is because there's been transfer planning for months for players he's chosen. If we replace him all that work could be pointless and we'd end up paying more for players.

How would mancini leaving mean us paying more for players?

 

[Goose_Grease]

pellegrini is not the right choice to replace mancini hes not really won anything and would be a massive risk considering mancini's actually won the title and an fa cup, however klopp would be good choice to replace mancini if we looking to do so which i personally think we aren't.

Nobody has won anything until they win something. His performance vs money spent track record certainly suggests he'd do much better than a scraped Premiership and two Champions League group stage exits in four years at Manchester City.

And Arsenal were an away goal from knocking out the mighty Bayern.
Perhaps Wengers the man?
The premier league is won over 38 games. No team scrapes it!!!

We scored 2 goals in stoppage time to avoid not winning, I think by definition that is called "scraping it".

Bayern vs Arsenal was a strange match, Bayern trounced them in the first leg then seemed to rest on their laurels, so it's difficult to use that match alone as evidence of managerial genius.

Hypothetically I don't think Arsene Wenger is as bad as you are intimating; I would never want him at Manchester City because defensively his side would be infuriating, however he's definitely been unfairly lambasted for a team that are much more hampered by financial restraints.

 

[TCIB]

By definition it is not scraping merely your personal view.

As harry the plumber says '38 games' that is the course of a season, it was not a cup match.
If it was i would agree fully. It was a close and tense finish though.
That is just my reasoning of course.

Are you willing to extend the same courtesy's to Mancini you do Klopp ?
If so then what about the Malaga match, would that not be scraping it as you say ?
If so we would be talking about a manager who lost to Malaga and got smashed in the German league.

He is not using that match alone at all he is giving an example.
Just because it doesn't tally with your reasoning does not invalidate it imo, indeed it questions your assertions and your reply seems inadequate thus far.

Not having a go at all i think your reasonings don't hold to much water.

 

[crb]

By definition it was 'scraping' wether it be judged by that last game or the course of the season we very much scraped through ... as did Dortmund against Malaga but they're in a different situation to us so therefore there achievements will be judged in a different light to ours.

 

[TCIB]

Scraping it to me wouldn't have involved the brilliant performances of the early season imo.
The match we scraped yes, the championship we didn't scrape which is what the fella i quoted said we did.

@Goose_Grease
Wenger has a large say on finances at Arsenal and it was he who has doled out huge contracts like confetti to sub par players.
I think his financial restraints if any are from his own making.

 

[Goose_Grease]

Scraping it to me wouldn't have involved the brilliant performances of the early season imo.
The match we scraped yes, the championship we didn't scrape which is what the fella i quoted said we did.

The definition of scraping something is to succeed by a narrow margin. I would say that winning a title on goal difference is a narrow margin, wouldn't you?
I don't know how you can compare Klopp and Mancini... one built a team from the ground upwards with a minimal budget, reaching the semis of the Champions League and overhauling the traditional German powerhouses Bayern Munich domestically for two seasons in a row, the other has had hundreds of millions of pounds to burn and has only returned a tanned backside in Europe and a scraped Premiership.

Yes, I agree Dortmund scraped past Malaga, both sides are impressive and well managed so one losing to the other is no disgrace. Dortmund's second team made us look foolish in Germany when we were going for 3rd spot, that Malaga could come so close to winning there is comparatively impressive.

 

[crb]

We won the league in the last 5min of 38 season, that's not scraping it? Throw in the early form argument and to me that only reinforces the fact of how much we scraped it.