Kolarov

[Bill]

wow i thought i was the only one i think he has had a poor season

i think he'll actually come out of the traps running, he's that sort of guy, should baines arrive the left backs will have to be right on their game or the other guy will step in.
good for the team.

What about Kolarov makes him "that sort of guy"? Not buying it.

the sort that will accept he has to up his game and will take on the challenge of a rival left back.

 

[kcmcfc]

Have got the feeling that this thread is going to go from lighthearted to serious.

I was hoping you would be wrong but knew you'd be right. Funny article indeed.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Kolarov has had a poor season, but I haven't given up hope for him, think he may be like a brand new sigining next season. He played in the semi and in the final, a final where Zab was on the bench. So that to me shows Mancini has clearly got faith in him.

just out of interest how do you think patrice evra and ashley cole played this season..were they

A.good prem standard.

B.wank

C. poor

how do you think kolorov,s performance over the season compares with cole and evra.?

 

[Bill]

Kolarov has had a poor season, but I haven't given up hope for him, think he may be like a brand new sigining next season. He played in the semi and in the final, a final where Zab was on the bench. So that to me shows Mancini has clearly got faith in him.

just out of interest how do you think patrice evra and ashley cole played this season..were they

A.good prem standard.

B.wank

C. poor

how do you think kolorov,s performance over the season compares with cole and evra.?

i only watched those 2 players 4 times in total so not enough to judge , i also have no interest in them only in my own team.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Kolarov has had a poor season, but I haven't given up hope for him, think he may be like a brand new sigining next season. He played in the semi and in the final, a final where Zab was on the bench. So that to me shows Mancini has clearly got faith in him.

just out of interest how do you think patrice evra and ashley cole played this season..were they

A.good prem standard.

B.wank

C. poor

how do you think kolorov,s performance over the season compares with cole and evra.?

i only watched those 2 players 4 times in total so not enough to judge , i also have no interest in them only in my own team.

but you think ,over the course of a season kolorov,s been wank.? i just think he,s done his job defensively pretty well,played his part in the clean sheets..as have the other defenders and hart. there have been times when he,s looked off the pace,the blackpool winger being one example,...but that aside he has not been embarrassed by anyone this season and i don,t recall us conceding a glut of goals from his mistakes.can you..?
his wayward shooting i find exciting-like you i was looking forward to this part of his game more than any other-love players who have the bottle to just hit it,and from any angle,must be a nightmare for keepers...really think his assists and goals will stack up next season..BUT..i still say he has been far from wank this season. nobody has carried him.he,s played his part in a superb defensive unit. hopefully next season he will develop/fine tune his game a little and we shall be seeing exactly why he was the the most coveted left back in europe.

thought evra was no bettter than kolorov this season,cole was consistent but not as effective with his over-lapping runs..neither can say they were head and shoulders above kolorov. at the very worst,he,s had a average season...one clean sheet evey two games,he must be doing somthing right.

 

[Dax777]

Hahaha, i liked that.

I don't don't think he's as bad as some on here make out, we'll see how he develops next season.

he's not as bad as HE makes out, he's a lot lot better that what he has shown so far. i was really pleased we got him and yet he has a very poor season. looking forward to seeing the real AK this time round.

Don,t be silly.

He has not had a very poor season. He has played a full part in helping city to joint 2nd in the premier league,won the fa cup and achieved champs league..one of our best seasons for 35 years.

Our 1st choice left back has helped ensure we keep a clean sheet once every two matches-only chelski had a better defensive record with an established back four who know each others game after years of playing together.

Not bad for a debut season in the toughest league in the world...or maybe you think we achieved all we did playing with ten men??

ArrrrH! We are not Joint 2nd. There is no such thing. We are 3rd. We have the same point as the team that came 2nd, but we are 3rd. It is disingenuous and down right childish to make this false claim. I see it all the time and it is annoying. :( I sincerely doubt we'd be claiming Joint 2nd had we scored more goals than Chelsea.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

he's not as bad as HE makes out, he's a lot lot better that what he has shown so far. i was really pleased we got him and yet he has a very poor season. looking forward to seeing the real AK this time round.

Don,t be silly.

He has not had a very poor season. He has played a full part in helping city to joint 2nd in the premier league,won the fa cup and achieved champs league..one of our best seasons for 35 years.

Our 1st choice left back has helped ensure we keep a clean sheet once every two matches-only chelski had a better defensive record with an established back four who know each others game after years of playing together.

Not bad for a debut season in the toughest league in the world...or maybe you think we achieved all we did playing with ten men??

ArrrrH! We are not Joint 2nd. There is no such thing. We are 3rd. We have the same point as the team that came 2nd, but we are 3rd. It is disingenuous and down right childish to make this false claim. I see it all the time and it is annoying. :( I sincerely doubt we'd be claiming Joint 2nd had we scored more goals than Chelsea.

ok.
but what do you think about kolorov? has he had a very poor season, been wank, average or bloody good?

 

[Any1aBlue]

Kolarov has had a poor season, but I haven't given up hope for him, think he may be like a brand new sigining next season. He played in the semi and in the final, a final where Zab was on the bench. So that to me shows Mancini has clearly got faith in him.

just out of interest how do you think patrice evra and ashley cole played this season..were they

A.good prem standard.

B.wank

C. poor

how do you think kolorov,s performance over the season compares with cole and evra.?

Aren't B & C the wrong way round? I'd rather be called poor than wank........i think.
Anyway, for what its worth; If Baines plays for an average prem side (Everton) - then Kolarov isnt that good. Does that help?

 

[Lomas has a lob on]

Kolarov has had a poor season, but I haven't given up hope for him, think he may be like a brand new sigining next season. He played in the semi and in the final, a final where Zab was on the bench. So that to me shows Mancini has clearly got faith in him.

just out of interest how do you think patrice evra and ashley cole played this season..were they

A.good prem standard.

B.wank

C. poor

how do you think kolorov,s performance over the season compares with cole and evra.?

Evra and Cole by there lofty standards haven't been that good this season but that is still better than the average premiership full back. Baines, Enrique have both really shone in my opinion.
Considering we supposedly beat Real to Kolarovs signature, and with the hysteria that followed his arrival here, maybe I got carried away with it all and I was expecting a world class full back, now im not saying Kolarov isn't a great player, but like in my original post, I dont think he has been great this season, but I am willing to put that down to a new league, and again like I already said I think he'll be better next season. I though my original post was pretty clear, to be honest.

 

[VinceYoungisaBLUE]

i think he'll actually come out of the traps running, he's that sort of guy, should baines arrive the left backs will have to be right on their game or the other guy will step in.
good for the team.

What about Kolarov makes him "that sort of guy"? Not buying it.

the sort that will accept he has to up his game and will take on the challenge of a rival left back.

He is already better than Baines so he shouldnt have much trouble.

 

[FantasyIreland]

What about Kolarov makes him "that sort of guy"? Not buying it.

the sort that will accept he has to up his game and will take on the challenge of a rival left back.

He is already better than Baines so he shouldnt have much trouble.

Bollox.

And coincidentally that is what he needs to find a pair of if he is to fulfill De Niro's prediction.

 

[Vienna_70]

I don't think AK had a great season, but by the same token, he wasn't garbage, either.

He had a good semi-final, I thought; he kept nanny quiet all game and his selection for the final was a tribute to his greater attacking prowess than Zaba, IMHO.

I agree with those, who said the injury at Spuds affected him, as did the pace of the Premier League, which is a shock for most imports.

I think (and hope) he will be better next season, and if he is, our defensive record should be even better.

 

[Dax777]

Don,t be silly.

He has not had a very poor season. He has played a full part in helping city to joint 2nd in the premier league,won the fa cup and achieved champs league..one of our best seasons for 35 years.

Our 1st choice left back has helped ensure we keep a clean sheet once every two matches-only chelski had a better defensive record with an established back four who know each others game after years of playing together.

Not bad for a debut season in the toughest league in the world...or maybe you think we achieved all we did playing with ten men??

ArrrrH! We are not Joint 2nd. There is no such thing. We are 3rd. We have the same point as the team that came 2nd, but we are 3rd. It is disingenuous and down right childish to make this false claim. I see it all the time and it is annoying. :( I sincerely doubt we'd be claiming Joint 2nd had we scored more goals than Chelsea.

ok.
but what do you think about kolorov? has he had a very poor season, been wank, average or bloody good?

To answer the relevant question, yes I agree with most of the joke analysis that started the thread. I have said on many many threads that Kolarov's main problem is his offensive ineptitude. The shots, the weak dribble move, the decision making, the crosses and freekicks, are wholeheartedly poor. Every bit of it, but his defending, positioning and movement are 1st class. His tackling is average, he has stiff hips so he can be turned easily (perhaps this is part inkury related), and his recovery speed is average too.

But overall his a better defender than he gets credit for, but a very poor offensive leftback. Sadly, and funnily, a lot of City fans continue to rate his offensive attributes and bemoan his defense. When in fact the opposite should be the case.

That said, I'd like to see him fully healthy next season, and I believe that might improve his defensive skill (which are already very good) but I doubt it will do much for his offense. As all the qualities he needs to improve on offense comes from the brain!

 

[masterwig]

Made me chuckle that. He drives me mad with his wildly optimistic shots.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I don't think AK had a great season, but by the same token, he wasn't garbage, either.

He had a good semi-final, I thought; he kept nanny quiet all game and his selection for the final was a tribute to his greater attacking prowess than Zaba, IMHO.

I agree with those, who said the injury at Spuds affected him, as did the pace of the Premier League, which is a shock for most imports.

I think (and hope) he will be better next season, and if he is, our defensive record should be even better.

pretty much what i was saying. not great,not garbage.or wank,or very poor.
with the potential to be excellent next year.
his 1st game at spurs he played lennon very well,and to the poster who suggested he grow a pair, remember he played on in agony in this match for a good 20 mins after being injured-it was obvious he couldn,t walk or run prop but he was desperate not to let city down on his league debut..can,t get much more committed than that pal.

he ended the season with a kamikaze display at wembley,in an attacking sense, but never once let stokes winger suggest for one second he could influence the match...

watching kolo break out of the fulham penalty area at speed to launch a 70 yard counter attack from his own penalty area was one of the most exciting sights of the season for me-god knows what the fulham fans in the home end were thinking when our left back led the calvery charge downfield..decent performances followed at a number of other grounds,and whilst he was found wanting on occasion, pace and even technique wise(tackling) his galvanizing runs and willingness to shoot on sight more than made up for that .

his contribution to citys best defensive record in years has to be looked at,a winners medal and top three finish with all the clean sheets-room for improvement maybe,but still reason for kolorov to be proud of his 1st season in the prem league.<br /><br />-- Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:10 pm --<br /><br />

ArrrrH! We are not Joint 2nd. There is no such thing. We are 3rd. We have the same point as the team that came 2nd, but we are 3rd. It is disingenuous and down right childish to make this false claim. I see it all the time and it is annoying. :( I sincerely doubt we'd be claiming Joint 2nd had we scored more goals than Chelsea.

ok.
but what do you think about kolorov? has he had a very poor season, been wank, average or bloody good?

To answer the relevant question, yes I agree with most of the joke analysis that started the thread. I have said on many many threads that Kolarov's main problem is his offensive ineptitude. The shots, the weak dribble move, the decision making, the crosses and freekicks, are wholeheartedly poor. Every bit of it, but his defending, positioning and movement are 1st class. His tackling is average, he has stiff hips so he can be turned easily (perhaps this is part inkury related), and his recovery speed is average too.

But overall his a better defender than he gets credit for, but a very poor offensive leftback. Sadly, and funnily, a lot of City fans continue to rate his offensive attributes and bemoan his defense. When in fact the opposite should be the case.

That said, I'd like to see him fully healthy next season, and I believe that might improve his defensive skill (which are already very good) but I doubt it will do much for his offense. As all the qualities he needs to improve on offense comes from the brain!

i also think his positioning and movement are excellent. to me it is a step up in quality from bridge and garrido-never seen a defender who so fluidly joins or starts the attack ...he looks really classy just when he recieves the ball and decides he,s off on a a run again,his control is first class,so different to micahs clumsy/wooden attempts to do the same...

we paid a lot of money,maybe thats why some think he,s been wank or very poor.i just think he,s such a step up from wayne bridge and garrido..its been a pleasure to watch him for city-can,t wait for next season!

 

[Fat Chance]

He's got no change of pace, the earlier stiff hipped poster was on the money...he'll be half intresting if they (his hips) can be cured/manipulated.

I've not forgot him not being willing to accept a football shot at/through him from close quarters (10/10for the dodge)...for a fullback within the 6yd box that's a mortal sin.

 

[Dax777]

He's got no change of pace, the earlier stiff hipped poster was on the money...he'll be half intresting if they (his hips) can be cured/manipulated.

I've not forgot him not being willing to accept a football shot at/through him from close quarters (10/10for the dodge)...for a fullback within the 6yd box that's a mortal sin.

He needs to exercise his brain a little more :(

 

[TheSituation]

The sad thing is people actually think Baines is a lot better than Kolarov, when he isn't, at all. I keep hearing about these stats like he's the best crosser in the league because of his success rates, but they're the same kind of stats that claimed Lescott was the highest scoring PL CB for 3 seasons running.

If Baines signs, he'll flop, it really is that simple. He's not a great defender, he's not special going forward, he's not Champions League standard.

 

[Bill]

I don't think AK had a great season, but by the same token, he wasn't garbage, either.

He had a good semi-final, I thought; he kept nanny quiet all game and his selection for the final was a tribute to his greater attacking prowess than Zaba, IMHO.

I agree with those, who said the injury at Spuds affected him, as did the pace of the Premier League, which is a shock for most imports.

I think (and hope) he will be better next season, and if he is, our defensive record should be even better.

pretty much what i was saying. not great,not garbage.or wank,or very poor.
with the potential to be excellent next year.
his 1st game at spurs he played lennon very well,and to the poster who suggested he grow a pair, remember he played on in agony in this match for a good 20 mins after being injured-it was obvious he couldn,t walk or run prop but he was desperate not to let city down on his league debut..can,t get much more committed than that pal.

he ended the season with a kamikaze display at wembley,in an attacking sense, but never once let stokes winger suggest for one second he could influence the match...

watching kolo break out of the fulham penalty area at speed to launch a 70 yard counter attack from his own penalty area was one of the most exciting sights of the season for me-god knows what the fulham fans in the home end were thinking when our left back led the calvery charge downfield..decent performances followed at a number of other grounds,and whilst he was found wanting on occasion, pace and even technique wise(tackling) his galvanizing runs and willingness to shoot on sight more than made up for that .

his contribution to citys best defensive record in years has to be looked at,a winners medal and top three finish with all the clean sheets-room for improvement maybe,but still reason for kolorov to be proud of his 1st season in the prem league.

-- Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:10 pm --

ok.
but what do you think about kolorov? has he had a very poor season, been wank, average or bloody good?

To answer the relevant question, yes I agree with most of the joke analysis that started the thread. I have said on many many threads that Kolarov's main problem is his offensive ineptitude. The shots, the weak dribble move, the decision making, the crosses and freekicks, are wholeheartedly poor. Every bit of it, but his defending, positioning and movement are 1st class. His tackling is average, he has stiff hips so he can be turned easily (perhaps this is part inkury related), and his recovery speed is average too.

But overall his a better defender than he gets credit for, but a very poor offensive leftback. Sadly, and funnily, a lot of City fans continue to rate his offensive attributes and bemoan his defense. When in fact the opposite should be the case.

That said, I'd like to see him fully healthy next season, and I believe that might improve his defensive skill (which are already very good) but I doubt it will do much for his offense. As all the qualities he needs to improve on offense comes from the brain!

i also think his positioning and movement are excellent. to me it is a step up in quality from bridge and garrido-never seen a defender who so fluidly joins or starts the attack ...he looks really classy just when he recieves the ball and decides he,s off on a a run again,his control is first class,so different to micahs clumsy/wooden attempts to do the same...

we paid a lot of money,maybe thats why some think he,s been wank or very poor.i just think he,s such a step up from wayne bridge and garrido..its been a pleasure to watch him for city-can,t wait for next season!

i swear you must have either been watching different games to the rest of football or you are in fact AK himself.i honestly have never seen such crap written about a player who's had a terrible season. he could well turn in to the kolorov we bought and good luck to him but to date he has been dire.
my guess you think big phil is better than david villa.

 

[Dax777]

The sad thing is people actually think Baines is a lot better than Kolarov, when he isn't, at all. I keep hearing about these stats like he's the best crosser in the league because of his success rates, but they're the same kind of stats that claimed Lescott was the highest scoring PL CB for 3 seasons running.

If Baines signs, he'll flop, it really is that simple. He's not a great defender, he's not special going forward, he's not Champions League standard.

Any suggestions?