yankcitizen76
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And the earliest time he can be reinstated is.....
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Kolo Toure suspended (MERGED)
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yankcitizen76 said:And the earliest time he can be reinstated is.....
Let's see what the punishment is eh?
woow talk about not getting it. Wenger was asked what he thought about it and if he would go to court and be character witness, he could have easily said no, its not my business. Instead he backed Kolo and complimented his characterrobsta said:Yeah great that Wenger thinks it's funny. We've got a player who is currently suspended from playing and the guy doesn't know what the future holds for him. He stupidly speaks to Wenger about it and then Wenger thinks it's ok to betray that trust and sits there nearly pissing himself.
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All I can say about this is....take your wifes diet pill FFS Kolo? Doesnt all that running about you do for a living keep the weight off?
I hope the powers that be are lenient about this, but somehow I can see the poor c**t getting a lengthly ban :(
I hope the powers that be are lenient about this, but somehow I can see the poor c**t getting a lengthly ban :(
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Manchester City are anxious that Kolo Touré does not seek publicly to declare his innocence of drugs offences which he has told his former manager Arsène Wenger have left him "devastated."
Touré, a devout Muslim who does not drink, telephoned Wenger on Thursday evening and told him that he had taken a dietary product used by his wife, Awo, because "he wanted to lose weight a little bit". Wenger yesterday expressed deep sympathy for Touré and is ready to act as a character witness for him if the 29-year-old, who has been provisionally suspended by City but is still permitted to train with them, finds himself charged on the basis of a B-sample test.
City want Touré, who was submitted to a random drugs test after the Manchester derby on 12 February, to maintain a diplomatic silence on the issue rather than speak out and appear to be attempting to influence the World Anti-Doping Agency's investigation. Touré is not the most gregarious of City players but the knowledge that he will face a likely four- to nine-month ban and that his City career may effectively be over could create a temptation to defend himself.
Wenger said a ban would be harsh, though all players were provided with advice governing this kind of risk by UK Anti-Doping last November. "Of course, [Kolo] is shocked by the situation because you know Kolo," Wenger said. "He is a guy who never prepared himself to be in this kind of situation so it is a big shock and he wanted to lose weight a little bit and his wife was on a diet and that's where he took this product. He is devastated. You can be suspended once you are positive and people don't consider too much why you did it. They just punish you. It is a blow for City as well. But he is not suspended yet."
But Wenger added: "Legally, you know what is forbidden is forbidden. The mistake he made is not to have asked the doctor of Man City, 'Can I take that or not?' You must say as well that he was unlucky because he was done in the doping control after the Man United game and he didn't play. That means he has one chance out of nine to be picked.
"[Kolo] is genuine, honest, highly-motivated, [does] good work every day. The problem was to get him off the pitch you know – it was not to put him on. He is open. You have seen him here you know, but you do not need to see him here to know how he lives. It was completely the kind of stupid thing that can happen to you, where you are punished, you know, in life. You cross the road, don't look right [or] left [and] boom. People don't ask if you deserve or not deserve [things.]"
Wenger also joked that you should "never trust your wife – that is [why] he was caught" though the Ivorian finds himself in a serious situation, with a tough job mitigating against a lengthy suspension if he is proven to have taken an illegal substance. Strict liability rules surround all cases of this nature. The Ivorian must prove his innocence and a lack of knowledge is generally not an adequate defence.
"There are enough warnings out there," said Michele Verroken, founding director of Sporting Integrity and formerly UK Sport's director of drug-free sport. "If what is being said... is correct, then it is what we call a fat burner, which increases the heart rate. You simply cannot afford to be taking this stuff. There is no excuse."
If charged, Touré may seek the same defence as Simon Mensing, the Hamilton midfielder, who proved after testing positive for a banned substance, methylhexaneamine, in December, that he had taken a contaminated dietary supplement and provided credible evidence to back up his case. Mensing's ban was subsequently limited to a month though that outcome is very rare. When Paddy Kenny's chest infection remedy showed up traces of the stimulant ephedrine two years ago, the then Sheffield United goalkeeper was suspended for nine months.
Touré's agent Valere Gouriso said that the player was "careful to maintain [his] shape... and that is what caused him to take his wife's diet pills. He has only taken these to be successful. And now it turned out to be some substance in this that was not good. But we are very optimistic. We think it will all work out."
City's Defensive Options
Vincent Kompany: City's senior defender and most consistent performer this season. Guaranteed to start.
Joleon Lescott: Not lived up to his £24m fee but recently improved performances show he is at least Touré's equal.
Jérôme Boateng: Played at centre-back for Hamburg and, given his style, looks more suited there than at full-back.
Dedryck Boyata: The 20-year-old is very raw, as shown by his dismissal against Arsenal, but also quite gifted.
Manchester City are anxious that Kolo Touré does not seek publicly to declare his innocence of drugs offences which he has told his former manager Arsène Wenger have left him "devastated."
Touré, a devout Muslim who does not drink, telephoned Wenger on Thursday evening and told him that he had taken a dietary product used by his wife, Awo, because "he wanted to lose weight a little bit". Wenger yesterday expressed deep sympathy for Touré and is ready to act as a character witness for him if the 29-year-old, who has been provisionally suspended by City but is still permitted to train with them, finds himself charged on the basis of a B-sample test.
City want Touré, who was submitted to a random drugs test after the Manchester derby on 12 February, to maintain a diplomatic silence on the issue rather than speak out and appear to be attempting to influence the World Anti-Doping Agency's investigation. Touré is not the most gregarious of City players but the knowledge that he will face a likely four- to nine-month ban and that his City career may effectively be over could create a temptation to defend himself.
Wenger said a ban would be harsh, though all players were provided with advice governing this kind of risk by UK Anti-Doping last November. "Of course, [Kolo] is shocked by the situation because you know Kolo," Wenger said. "He is a guy who never prepared himself to be in this kind of situation so it is a big shock and he wanted to lose weight a little bit and his wife was on a diet and that's where he took this product. He is devastated. You can be suspended once you are positive and people don't consider too much why you did it. They just punish you. It is a blow for City as well. But he is not suspended yet."
But Wenger added: "Legally, you know what is forbidden is forbidden. The mistake he made is not to have asked the doctor of Man City, 'Can I take that or not?' You must say as well that he was unlucky because he was done in the doping control after the Man United game and he didn't play. That means he has one chance out of nine to be picked.
"[Kolo] is genuine, honest, highly-motivated, [does] good work every day. The problem was to get him off the pitch you know – it was not to put him on. He is open. You have seen him here you know, but you do not need to see him here to know how he lives. It was completely the kind of stupid thing that can happen to you, where you are punished, you know, in life. You cross the road, don't look right [or] left [and] boom. People don't ask if you deserve or not deserve [things.]"
Wenger also joked that you should "never trust your wife – that is [why] he was caught" though the Ivorian finds himself in a serious situation, with a tough job mitigating against a lengthy suspension if he is proven to have taken an illegal substance. Strict liability rules surround all cases of this nature. The Ivorian must prove his innocence and a lack of knowledge is generally not an adequate defence.
"There are enough warnings out there," said Michele Verroken, founding director of Sporting Integrity and formerly UK Sport's director of drug-free sport. "If what is being said... is correct, then it is what we call a fat burner, which increases the heart rate. You simply cannot afford to be taking this stuff. There is no excuse."
If charged, Touré may seek the same defence as Simon Mensing, the Hamilton midfielder, who proved after testing positive for a banned substance, methylhexaneamine, in December, that he had taken a contaminated dietary supplement and provided credible evidence to back up his case. Mensing's ban was subsequently limited to a month though that outcome is very rare. When Paddy Kenny's chest infection remedy showed up traces of the stimulant ephedrine two years ago, the then Sheffield United goalkeeper was suspended for nine months.
Touré's agent Valere Gouriso said that the player was "careful to maintain [his] shape... and that is what caused him to take his wife's diet pills. He has only taken these to be successful. And now it turned out to be some substance in this that was not good. But we are very optimistic. We think it will all work out."
City's Defensive Options
Vincent Kompany: City's senior defender and most consistent performer this season. Guaranteed to start.
Joleon Lescott: Not lived up to his £24m fee but recently improved performances show he is at least Touré's equal.
Jérôme Boateng: Played at centre-back for Hamburg and, given his style, looks more suited there than at full-back.
Dedryck Boyata: The 20-year-old is very raw, as shown by his dismissal against Arsenal, but also quite gifted.
gooney said:Funny how Toure turned to Wenger when he's in trouble, instead of his own manager
Why? He played under Wenger for 8 years, he is currently out of favour with Mancini. Anyone who has played under a manager for 8 years is going to seek advice or comfort from them.
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gooney said:Funny how Toure turned to Wenger when he's in trouble, instead of his own manager
How do you know he hasn't spoke with both?
And considering he was at your place,under the tutorage of a man he obviously holds in high regard,for the majority of his formulative years,i would have been surprised if he hadn't sought his wisdom and advice.
Lets not be a dick about this Gooney.
Im not being dick, but its strange how little City players and staff have said about this....no public support at all. You should be fighting his corner. If this was an arsenal player....even the tea lady would come out and say her bitFantasyIreland said:gooney said:Funny how Toure turned to Wenger when he's in trouble, instead of his own manager
How do you know he hasn't spoke with both?
And considering he was at your place,under the tutorage of a man he obviously holds in high regard,for the majority of his formulative years,i would have been surprised if he hadn't sought his wisdom and advice.
Lets not be a dick about this Gooney.