Kompany red card and appeal SUCCESSFUL

[Chippy_boy]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Just had a read up on the rules and it says this:

The grounds of appeal available to Participants shall be that the body whose decision is appealed against :
(1) failed to give the appellant a fair hearing and/or
(2) misinterpreted or failed to comply with the rules or regulations relevant to its decision; and/or
(3) came to a decision to which no reasonable such body could have come and/or
(4) imposed a penalty, award, order or sanction that was excessive

(1) and (4) are not relevant. And I can't see how Vinny would get off with either (2) or (3).

 

[nijinskybell]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

He's not going to do that though is he
Especially if he knows he has the backing of souness and young twitcher right after the match

He's a top ref who clearly doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks about him, least of all a pair of know-nowts like those two, so he might. He probably values Dermot Gallagher's opinion a lot more, and he was adamant that he made he mistake. There's no harm in appealing though as it definitely can't be deemed frivolous.

Oh i agree mate 100% i'd appeal it
I just get the feeling if he knows its 50/50 with the pundits and press he will just stick with what his original decision.

Dean can legitimately say that from his view it looked worse than it actually was and the side view clearly shows it was a good tackle, and Wilshere slid into Vinny (rather than VK tackling Wilshere) therefore he got it wrong - an honest mistake - whether he will or not remains to be seen.

Personally it would be dishonest of him to insist his original decision was correct imho.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:06 am --<br /><br />

Just had a read up on the rules and it says this:

The grounds of appeal available to Participants shall be that the body whose decision is appealed against :
(1) failed to give the appellant a fair hearing and/or
(2) misinterpreted or failed to comply with the rules or regulations relevant to its decision; and/or
(3) came to a decision to which no reasonable such body could have come and/or
(4) imposed a penalty, award, order or sanction that was excessive

(1) and (4) are not relevant. And I can't see how Vinny would get off with either (2) or (3).

2 - misinterpreted the rules about a perfectly good tackle being a foul... maybe?

 

[fergal_oc]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

I really do hope it gets rescinded, it should do but overanalysis mode on, Vinny isn't helping himself because he tackles with his left foot in a rightfooted players way.

Most who've played the game know what I mean. If I slide in with my right foot my left foot is always on the ground beneath my right leg. Left footed tacklers will normally do the opposite so that when they slide in with their left their right foot is beneath their left leg. Vinny however always seems to tackle left footed in a right footed way so that his trailing leg is above his tackling leg. This is why it always looks so much worse than it really is.

As for this instance, you'll also notice that wilshere slips as he takes his last step before getting to Vinny which means he's actually the one out of control and not Vinny.

 

[Pigeonho]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Should get rescinded. To be honest I thought the challenge that won the ball that lead to one of the goals at Norwich was worse, and expected him to go for that. The challenge yesterday was absolutely perfect.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Fergal makes a good point. Normally when you tackle, your tackling leg is the upper leg. I hadn't really thought about it before, but Vinny often tackles with his lower leg and then his upper leg comes clattering in afterwards, which is why it ends up looking like two footed and /or excessive force. I guess this is instinctive for him and would probably be difficult to coach out.

 

[scotty123]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Graham Poll on talkshite now, there is no chance of Kompany getting it overturned it was a dangerous two footed lunge acc to arseoll, Irani and Brazil shouting and cackling away their support for what he says.
Altogether now, oh Graham Poll your a fucking arsehole

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Graham Poll on talkshite now, there is no chance of Kompany getting it overturned it was a dangerous two footed lunge acc to arseoll, Irani and Brazil shouting and cackling away their support for what he says.
Altogether now, oh Graham Poll your a fucking arsehole

Even Wenger said it looked fair FFS

ARSENE FUCKING WENGER
He hasn't seen anything in 15 years

 

[Dubai Blue]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Latest from the Fail:

Vincent Kompany will serve a ban for his red card at the Emirates, Sportsmail has learned.

It is understood that referee Mike Dean will not be asked to review the decision by the FA. Sources at the FA believe Dean’s decision to be ‘justified’.

Manchester City are going through the process of an appeal, but Dean’s decision does not qualify as a ‘clear and obvious error’ from the referee.

There will not be a ‘frivolous’ punishment penalty of additional game for Kompany, however. In order for that to be the case an appeal needs to have ‘no obvious case of success.’

Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html#ixzz2HwBY58ie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2HwBY58ie</a>

 

[Ajay]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Latest from the Fail:

Vincent Kompany will serve a ban for his red card at the Emirates, Sportsmail has learned.

It is understood that referee Mike Dean will not be asked to review the decision by the FA. Sources at the FA believe Dean’s decision to be ‘justified’.

Manchester City are going through the process of an appeal, but Dean’s decision does not qualify as a ‘clear and obvious error’ from the referee.

There will not be a ‘frivolous’ punishment penalty of additional game for Kompany, however. In order for that to be the case an appeal needs to have ‘no obvious case of success.’

Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html#ixzz2HwBY58ie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2HwBY58ie</a>

I was under the impression that it is out of the hands of the ref now and that the appeal is listened to by a seperate team - maybe I am totally wrong though

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: Kompany red card and appeal

Latest from the Fail:

Vincent Kompany will serve a ban for his red card at the Emirates, Sportsmail has learned.

It is understood that referee Mike Dean will not be asked to review the decision by the FA. Sources at the FA believe Dean’s decision to be ‘justified’.

Manchester City are going through the process of an appeal, but Dean’s decision does not qualify as a ‘clear and obvious error’ from the referee.

There will not be a ‘frivolous’ punishment penalty of additional game for Kompany, however. In order for that to be the case an appeal needs to have ‘no obvious case of success.’

Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262044/Vincent-Kompany-unsuccessful-appeal-red-card.html#ixzz2HwBY58ie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z2HwBY58ie</a>

I was under the impression that it is out of the hands of the ref now and that the appeal is listened to by a seperate team - maybe I am totally wrong though

No generally they ask the ref if after seeing it again he would of made a different decision, I think