Kompany slams journo

[Dodge MCFC]

Having Andy mitten writing anything about city
In the muen shows how pathetic this paper really is.
Let me do a match report on the rags SB and see if it
Gets published.

I agree. In a way its the same as Murdoch and his empire supporting his favoured political party of the time with relentless political propaganda , spreading influence over to whoever is gullable enough to swallow it ! Rag reporters writing important issues about MCFC is totally out of order imho , how has this been allowed to happen ? Oh and lastly Murdoch always has an agenda .....

 

[Newman Noggs]

I assume, in the interests of impartial and cutting edge journalism, the MEN will be asking the editor of a City fanzine to write an article on David Gill's conflict of interest arising from his roles as United's CEO, Vice Chairman of the FA, and nominated FA representative on the UEFA executive committee. The more so as both the FA and UEFA are driving through or have driven through "Fair play" rules the sole achievement of which which is to hobble any competition to Manchester United. Then again, maybe not.

STUART - on a serious note, could we have your comments on the above???

Andy Mitten is UWS editor, but he is also a freelance journalist in his own right, writing articles regularly for 442, World Soccer and others.
He is based in Barcelona, has an insight into Barcelona matters, as well as very good contacts throughout European and world football.
You have pre-judged his piece without even reading it. If you took the time, you would find it straightforward and interesting.
If you can tell me a City fanzine editor with Andy's credentials and contacts, who could write an instructive piece on Gill, I'm sure the MEN would consider it
.

I have yet to see any of the "insight into Barcelona matters" you talk about since most of what he says is readily available information. As far as Andy's "credentials" are concerned, I don't know any City fanzine editors who are United fans. I didn't pre-judge his piece, I merely suspected, rightly as it turned out, that it would involve his own partisan version of events. Guess what, having made full use of his "contacts throughout European and World football, he concludes that; "The Italian will co-operate closely with the Catalan and the Basque, but he’ll always be aware that their former colleague and compatriot Pep Guardiola is currently unemployed, hoping to get back into football next season". Oddly, that's exactly the same speculation all the red tops put out virtually every day, disruption at City the wet dream of rags everywhere.

 

[bluemanc]

I assume, in the interests of impartial and cutting edge journalism, the MEN will be asking the editor of a City fanzine to write an article on David Gill's conflict of interest arising from his roles as United's CEO, Vice Chairman of the FA, and nominated FA representative on the UEFA executive committee. The more so as both the FA and UEFA are driving through or have driven through "Fair play" rules the sole achievement of which which is to hobble any competition to Manchester United. Then again, maybe not.

STUART - on a serious note, could we have your comments on the above???

Andy Mitten is UWS editor, but he is also a freelance journalist in his own right, writing articles regularly for 442, World Soccer and others.
He is based in Barcelona, has an insight into Barcelona matters, as well as very good contacts throughout European and world football.
You have pre-judged his piece without even reading it. If you took the time, you would find it straightforward and interesting.
If you can tell me a City fanzine editor with Andy's credentials and contacts, who could write an instructive piece on Gill, I'm sure the MEN would consider it

-- Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:03 pm --

BTH come on down..........would be rude not to mention leveraged debt & Delaware,Cayman Islands with a special mention for david gill 2004 "Debt is the Road to Ruin".

I have written extensively on the Glazer takeover, Gill's hypocrisy, and Fergie's role in the whole sorry affair.
I won the Football Supporters Federation's football writer of the year award for doing so, in 2006.
I wrote dozens of articles on the subject, all of which damaged the paper's relationship with United, and with me.
You all seem to have missed them. Or just plain ignored them, as they don't fit your MUEN agenda.
Try opening your eyes, and looking at it from other angles.

Nobody has said you haven't in the past been critical of utd or fergie & nobody can say you toe the party line.
I don't have an agenda,i just have the ability to see what's in front of my eyes.
Mittens first article on City was bitter twisted & packed with lies,i couldn't give a shit if he PLAYED for Barcelona he is not fit to write articles about City.
Saying that Spencer or whoever can hire who they want & keep pumping out bile via whoever BUT people who read the paper like me will react to it.
Fair do's you sticking up for your paper & mates even if it is becoming a bit comical Ali ish, but i'll stick up for my club.

 

[philiph20]

I would hardly describe Mitten as a good writer, i have read 442 and World Soccer and to be honest he doesn't impress, seems a bit of an egotist and rather full of himself, the epitome of the 'sussed and sorted' cod lefty rag, think a taller Terry Christian with smaller breasts.

Are there any journalists working for the broadsheets and red tops who is actually a City fan?, the 'Sky four' have plenty and rags such as Steve Curry, Mark Ogden and Oliver 'i'm a Stockport fan' Holt spring to mind as devotees of all things Man U , Ogden's constant sniping and sarcastic digs are an embarrassment and he seems to be the antithesis of Henry Winter, indeed Winter and Martin Samuel appear to be one of the handful who are reasonable and fair to City.

To be fair Stuart Brennan isn't bad and is pretty fair bearing in mind he is a Rag but Spencer is laughable and the MEN really is more red top than broadsheet these days. We have the constant cheap stories about the two clubs such as 'fans coming from Manchester'etc which in turn gets fans from both sides commenting and the paper gets hits and traffic, lowest common denominator stories which you would NEVER have got in the MEN 20 or so years ago and more but bearing in mind the standard of journalism these days particularly football ones you sadly expect such garbage.

 

[bluesoup]

This has turned into a very good read.

Stuart, its plain to see that city feel the need to focus on their website and this is probably due to 'trust' with what is actually being published in your paper. Sounds like your paper had its chance and you all blew it by the persistent anecdotal and sensational articles published.

For info, I've stopped reading your (MEN) city coverage a long time ago, I got bored with the usual cliches that ranges between money we spent, Mancini on borrowed time, revolt, how much a player cost, players not happy with the manager, unsettled players, etc...

All we want is proper local journalism rather than that sensational clap trap. Some genuine investigative stories that actually come as a surprise...

Oh, forgot you did that 'once' and got an award for your efforts...

 

[CC1]

I assume, in the interests of impartial and cutting edge journalism, the MEN will be asking the editor of a City fanzine to write an article on David Gill's conflict of interest arising from his roles as United's CEO, Vice Chairman of the FA, and nominated FA representative on the UEFA executive committee. The more so as both the FA and UEFA are driving through or have driven through "Fair play" rules the sole achievement of which which is to hobble any competition to Manchester United. Then again, maybe not.

STUART - on a serious note, could we have your comments on the above???

Andy Mitten is UWS editor, but he is also a freelance journalist in his own right, writing articles regularly for 442, World Soccer and others.
He is based in Barcelona, has an insight into Barcelona matters, as well as very good contacts throughout European and world football.
You have pre-judged his piece without even reading it. If you took the time, you would find it straightforward and interesting.
If you can tell me a City fanzine editor with Andy's credentials and contacts, who could write an instructive piece on Gill, I'm sure the MEN would consider it

-- Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:03 pm --

BTH come on down..........would be rude not to mention leveraged debt & Delaware,Cayman Islands with a special mention for david gill 2004 "Debt is the Road to Ruin".

I have written extensively on the Glazer takeover, Gill's hypocrisy, and Fergie's role in the whole sorry affair.
I won the Football Supporters Federation's football writer of the year award for doing so, in 2006.
I wrote dozens of articles on the subject, all of which damaged the paper's relationship with United, and with me.
You all seem to have missed them. Or just plain ignored them, as they don't fit your MUEN agenda.
Try opening your eyes, and looking at it from other angles.

We want articles from YOU (as our City reporter) on topical issues - NOT just gossipy articles dissing our team or our manager. You still haven't given your thoughts on United's apparent influence on the FFP introduction. So, how about your comments on this link? I'd like to see if you can write something in favour of City at the expense of United...

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/chelsea-fans-heres-the-evidence-of-the-manchester-united-referee-conspiracy/<br /><br />-- Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:39 pm --<br /><br />

The only thing I will say on this, I can assure you there is a particular lack of enthusiasm from national desks to pursue certain lines of enquiry.

They fall into various categories. Ignorance, apathy and downright fear as to who it might rub the wrong way.

Things will change when a certain manager decides to call it a day.

I will caveat it, though, there are a surprising number of City fans or pro supporters of our club on this patch.

Albeit, there are a number of people in positions of power who are rabid Reds, Arsenal or Spurs.

Those who give us a fairer crack of the whip tend to be the West Ham Fleet Street mafia.

I would add to that - staff cuts, especially at the MEN, have curbed how much you can do.
A chief like Martin Samuel is afforded time to write such articles. Most of the rest of us are too busy filling the wide open spaces of the following day's paper

OMG what a pathetic answer......are you saying you cannot write a cutting article that exposes United because you haven't got time (or might get the push)??
Tell you what, we won't mind if you give up on the dull City articles that you have picked up off the City web site and write one on FFP instead. Honestly

 

[stonerblue]

I assume, in the interests of impartial and cutting edge journalism, the MEN will be asking the editor of a City fanzine to write an article on David Gill's conflict of interest arising from his roles as United's CEO, Vice Chairman of the FA, and nominated FA representative on the UEFA executive committee. The more so as both the FA and UEFA are driving through or have driven through "Fair play" rules the sole achievement of which which is to hobble any competition to Manchester United. Then again, maybe not.

STUART - on a serious note, could we have your comments on the above???

Andy Mitten is UWS editor, but he is also a freelance journalist in his own right, writing articles regularly for 442, World Soccer and others.
He is based in Barcelona, has an insight into Barcelona matters, as well as very good contacts throughout European and world football.
You have pre-judged his piece without even reading it. If you took the time, you would find it straightforward and interesting.
If you can tell me a City fanzine editor with Andy's credentials and contacts, who could write an instructive piece on Gill, I'm sure the MEN would consider it

-- Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:03 pm --

BTH come on down..........would be rude not to mention leveraged debt & Delaware,Cayman Islands with a special mention for david gill 2004 "Debt is the Road to Ruin".

I have written extensively on the Glazer takeover, Gill's hypocrisy, and Fergie's role in the whole sorry affair.
I won the Football Supporters Federation's football writer of the year award for doing so, in 2006.
I wrote dozens of articles on the subject, all of which damaged the paper's relationship with United, and with me.
You all seem to have missed them. Or just plain ignored them, as they don't fit your MUEN agenda.
Try opening your eyes, and looking at it from other angles.

Good answer.
Great piece with Vinny in todays edition Stuart.