Kompany slams journo

[stuart brennan]

To deal with the Dzeko/Balotelli story - how is it an attempt to de-stabilise them? They don't give a toss what people write.

This is an unfortunate choice of words used to defend yourself when this debate is based on the fact that a player had openly showed that he does care about what is written in the press. To say players 'don't give a toss' displays a severe misunderstanding of human nature, and maybe betrays the mindset of the hardened journalist.

As for Neil's piece, provocative and strong, but lacking that thing Vincent Kompany highlights - accuracy. See the point made about Ferdinand by a recent poster.

You're right, I should have chosen my words more carefully. What I meant was that nothing I wrote would ever destabilise those players, or any players for that matter. And that was never the intention, but rather to talk honestly about the situation as it was.
Would you prefer: "Edin Dzeko is fantastic, Mario Balotelli is brilliant, and City love them both and would never sell them."

As for Neil's piece, as I said, I don't agree with one or two of his opinions, but how would you say it lacked accuracy? Kompany was not suggesting there was no problem, but rather that the portrayal of a mutiny in some sections of the press was massively over-blown

 

[city1999]

I'm really surprised how muen keep going
Chip shop paper at best
The journalists who actually work at any
Newspaper, has got an easy job writing about
Yesterdays news
If they had a proper deadline of a breaking story
They wouldn't have a clue.
We all know they write lies, not just about city,
But with any subject you wish to name.
Ranging from hacking murder victim phones
To urinating on military prisoners

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

To deal with the Dzeko/Balotelli story - how is it an attempt to de-stabilise them? They don't give a toss what people write.

This is an unfortunate choice of words used to defend yourself when this debate is based on the fact that a player had openly showed that he does care about what is written in the press. To say players 'don't give a toss' displays a severe misunderstanding of human nature, and maybe betrays the mindset of the hardened journalist.

As for Neil's piece, provocative and strong, but lacking that thing Vincent Kompany highlights - accuracy. See the point made about Ferdinand by a recent poster.

You're right, I should have chosen my words more carefully. What I meant was that nothing I wrote would ever destabilise those players, or any players for that matter. And that was never the intention, but rather to talk honestly about the situation as it was.
Would you prefer: "Edin Dzeko is fantastic, Mario Balotelli is brilliant, and City love them both and would never sell them."

As for Neil's piece, as I said, I don't agree with one or two of his opinions, but how would you say it lacked accuracy? Kompany was not suggesting there was no problem, but rather that the portrayal of a mutiny in some sections of the press was massively over-blown

Stuart, to come back with would you prefer Edin is fantastic ,Mario is brilliant doesn't do you any justice at all.Puerile,playground stuff.

 

[stuart brennan]

I know it was puerile, playground stuff, but it was in response to some of the same.
You still haven't said what was wrong with what I wrote about Balotelli and Dzeko, or addressed the fact that many City fans held the same view at that time.

 

[Paladin]

To deal with the Dzeko/Balotelli story - how is it an attempt to de-stabilise them? They don't give a toss what people write.

This is an unfortunate choice of words used to defend yourself when this debate is based on the fact that a player had openly showed that he does care about what is written in the press. To say players 'don't give a toss' displays a severe misunderstanding of human nature, and maybe betrays the mindset of the hardened journalist.

As for Neil's piece, provocative and strong, but lacking that thing Vincent Kompany highlights - accuracy. See the point made about Ferdinand by a recent poster.

You're right, I should have chosen my words more carefully. What I meant was that nothing I wrote would ever destabilise those players, or any players for that matter. And that was never the intention, but rather to talk honestly about the situation as it was.
Would you prefer: "Edin Dzeko is fantastic, Mario Balotelli is brilliant, and City love them both and would never sell them."

As for Neil's piece, as I said, I don't agree with one or two of his opinions, but how would you say it lacked accuracy? Kompany was not suggesting there was no problem, but rather that the portrayal of a mutiny in some sections of the press was massively over-blown

Again Stuart, you show an opinion that players are not affected by what is written about them. Many writers treat them as fair game because they earn fantastic amounts of money. Well, this is not true - they are humans, with feelings.

I was not objecting to your analysis of those players, I was trying making you aware of other issues, the theme repeated here.

Neil's piece was unfair because it made out that Mancini had deficiencies in the areas where Ferguson has none. Another poster highlighted that Rio Ferdinand had within the last few days disobeyed his manager's instructions, to the extent that Ferguson said on national television that Ferdinand would be dealt with. In that way, his article was inaccurate, and it propagates the opinion that the newspaper favours United.

However, to counterbalance this many City fans are delighted that the MEN has represented Vincent Kompany so favourably. Some have expressed this view in this thread.

 

[stuart brennan]

But it transpired that Fergie had not communicated to his players what he had said to the press, and so had to back-track on saying he would punish Rio. It was a communication breakdown rather than disobedience, he said, and we have no reason to disbelieve that.
I am not a fan of either man, but if Ferdinand had disobeyed, I suspect he would have copped it.
The rest of what Neil says is opinion, and as I said, I don't agree with parts of it, but I wouldn't get upset about any of it, either.<br /><br />-- Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:34 pm --<br /><br />I would suggest that Mancini does have areas where he could learn from Ferguson, or are you suggesting he is equally good, or better, than him in every aspect of his management?

 

[waspish]

But it transpired that Fergie had not communicated to his players what he had said to the press, and so had to back-track on saying he would punish Rio. It was a communication breakdown rather than disobedience, he said, and we have no reason to disbelieve that.
I am not a fan of either man, but if Ferdinand had disobeyed, I suspect he would have copped it.
The rest of what Neil says is opinion, and as I said, I don't agree with parts of it, but I wouldn't get upset about any of it, either.

-- Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:34 pm --

I would suggest that Mancini does have areas where he could learn from Ferguson, or are you suggesting he is equally good, or better, than him in every aspect of his management?

The only thing he is better than Mancini at is manipulating the media..

 

[bobmcfc]

But it transpired that Fergie had not communicated to his players what he had said to the press, and so had to back-track on saying he would punish Rio. It was a communication breakdown rather than disobedience, he said, and we have no reason to disbelieve that.
I am not a fan of either man, but if Ferdinand had disobeyed, I suspect he would have copped it.
The rest of what Neil says is opinion, and as I said, I don't agree with parts of it, but I wouldn't get upset about any of it, either.

-- Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:34 pm --

I would suggest that Mancini does have areas where he could learn from Ferguson, or are you suggesting he is equally good, or better, than him in every aspect of his management?

I find it interesting that you would just take fergies word for it and then question what Vincent has said. ?

 

[Dodge MCFC]

So City were prepared to listen to offers for Mario and Edin during the summer Quote SB.

RVP was on the market at a lot less than any would be valueation of Mario and Edin . Mario had just had a fantastic euro,s and Edin is a striker at the Champions of England , City dont sell to there rivals in England and only 3 clubs in Europe ( barca ,madrid , psg ) could finance a move for either ....... so in reality both were going nowhere unless RVP ended up at the Etihad ? So listening to offers is irrelevent as every club in Europe would love to buy top strikers from the champions of England but they either cant afford them or know full well City wont sell to them ....plus both Mario and Edin Know full well they are playing on the "box office"stage that is MCFC .

 

[stuart brennan]

I find it interesting that you would just take fergies word for it and then question what Vincent has said. ?

Where did I question what Vincent had said? On the contrary, I fully accepted what Vincent had said. And in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I have to accept what Fergie said

(I think I may have accidentally somehow PM'd you with this as well, Bob, just ignore my cack-handedness)