Good god. Go back to the gun range and blow off some steam.
I didn't say visible I said injury. If I hit you on the head with force you have a good chance of concussion despite having no visible injury.
I'm sorry I'm not crawling over others to call for extreme violence as a punishment without irony.
Apart from toddlers you don't get to take kids out on a lead. I'm sure keeping them in cages is frowned upon too.
If two children are fighting you'd probably put yourself between them at risk of injury rather than hit or kick one. Wouldn't do that for a dog or cat would you?
What relevance is a child in this discussion?
Some people who are absolutely vile to humans adore and dote on animals. And vice versa, hence the inclusion of the quoted text that included "vivisection is wrong, we'll send them to concentration camps as punishment".
<b>·</b> Gang's campaign of terror against guinea pig farm<br> <b>·</b> Threats to kill owner's friends and employees
amp.theguardian.com
I never once said it wasn't cruel, I just don't believe in the hysteria.