Kyle Walker - 2017/2018 Performances

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karen7 said:
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Kyle Walker
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Gutted with last night. I apologise to the fans and my teammates. They did amazingly well to get back into the game and get a point #MCFC
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Great reaction by the player. But Walker has absolutely nothing to apologise for. Back for Liverpool and that is good news.
 
spurs4life said:
Sheesh I thought Spurs fans were bad with all that the media, refs, fa hates us nonsense. It was a bad decision. We all get bad decisions, and guess what every team in the league believes the refs are against them
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Not sure any team could provide so many examples of game changing decisions against them. It really does seem to be a weekly thing and while you can accept mistakes a lot of ours are pretty obvious ones.

Certainly not Spurs who at times seem blessed.
 
mosssideblue said:
You don't have to make contact if the intent was there and imo, he was rightly booked
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Seriously?

He slid in front of Baines to block the ball. He never touched Baines, who just jumped over the "air challenge!" Baines himself NEVER touched any part of his body when he went down. Nothing. He simply lay in his back, knees in the air, waiting for the card. Then he got up and carried on. Walker knew he never touched him and was telling Baines exactly that as he walked away.

If you think that he intended to tackle him, crunch him, make any contact with him and was simply too inept to do it, then I'm not sure what I can say.

There was no intent to tackle, only an intent to block a clearance. Nothing more, nothing less. Baines rode it, went down, didn't scream, roll or hold anything...but the ref felt like it LOOKED LIKE something must have happened! He guessed wrong!

The second yellow was almost worse! Oliver calls it a foul and probably hangs Madley out to dry by telling him it was an elbow and should be a yellow card....clearly knowing it would result in a red card!

I am absolutely NOT an "agenda" person, because I think, in general, most people are too stupid to be able to conduct a conspiracy. However, the quality of work being done by referees is showing serious deficiencies. The game moves quickly, and sometimes that can be an excuse, which is why so many players cheat. It is virtually impossible to see everything all the time, but it has become a matter of professionalism, or lack thereof. It is unprofessional to try to get a fellow professional sent off, but players do it because the stakes are so high that they are willing to resort to the lowest possible level of professional decorum to gain any such advantage.

We have all these initiatives to get racism out of football, how about one to get the cheating out of football?!

Refereeing is a hard job. Guessing doesn't make it any easier, especially when there are dozens of super slo mo cameras watching every step on the field! Two games in and some of the reffing has been Pub League.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Seriously?

He slid in front of Baines to block the ball. He never touched Baines, who just jumped over the "air challenge!" Baines himself NEVER touched any part of his body when he went down. Nothing. He simply lay in his back, knees in the air, waiting for the card. Then he got up and carried on. Walker knew he never touched him and was telling Baines exactly that as he walked away.

If you think that he intended to tackle him, crunch him, make any contact with him and was simply too inept to do it, then I'm not sure what I can say.

There was no intent to tackle, only an intent to block a clearance. Nothing more, nothing less. Baines rode it, went down, didn't scream, roll or hold anything...but the ref felt like it LOOKED LIKE something must have happened! He guessed wrong!

The second yellow was almost worse! Oliver calls it a foul and probably hangs Madley out to dry by telling him it was an elbow and should be a yellow card....clearly knowing it would result in a red card!

I am absolutely NOT an "agenda" person, because I think, in general, most people are too stupid to be able to conduct a conspiracy. However, the quality of work being done by referees is showing serious deficiencies. The game moves quickly, and sometimes that can be an excuse, which is why so many players cheat. It is virtually impossible to see everything all the time, but it has become a matter of professionalism, or lack thereof. It is unprofessional to try to get a fellow professional sent off, but players do it because the stakes are so high that they are willing to resort to the lowest possible level of professional decorum to gain any such advantage.

We have all these initiatives to get racism out of football, how about one to get the cheating out of football?!

Refereeing is a hard job. Guessing doesn't make it any easier, especially when there are dozens of super slo mo cameras watching every step on the field! Two games in and some of the reffing has been Pub League.
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There was slight contact between heel and toe on the follow through, no intent though.
 
moomba said:
Not sure any team could provide so many examples of game changing decisions against them. It really does seem to be a weekly thing and while you can accept mistakes a lot of ours are pretty obvious ones.

Certainly not Spurs who at times seem blessed.
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Ridiculous. Do you not remember Carroll and Mendes from the halfway line? Or Gomes v Chelsea when the ball didn't cross the line, or against Chelsea where Ekotto saved it on the line and the goal was given, or when Balotelli stamped on Parker and Lescott elbowed Kaboul in the face when we lost to you guys 3-2 and neither got a red card. Or Danny Rose incorrectly being sent off at home against City.
I can reel off so many examples as can nearly every club of times where they have been cheated.
It happens. This victim mentality is ridiculous. And I say the same thing to Spurs fans too.
 
Crap send off - wtf?

Walker to me, clearly knew where Calvert-Lewin was - and to be absolutely fair - I thought that Walker intentionally backed into Lewin just to let him know what's what.

A foul by Walker - certainly, for me. A card - only if for persistent fouling - which in this case didn't apply.

Lewin's embelishment of the foul by grabbing his face and rolling around on the ground - disgusting.
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For me, post review of matches should work both ways - why can't players be excused from unjust cards following an unbiased review? I like the fact that retrospective punishment can occur - but why not retrospective leniency - both sendings off in this game were totally stupid and the result of a ref who was cheritably speaking off his game - or not so cheritable - totally incompetent.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
Crap send off - wtf?

Walker to me, clearly knew where Calvert-Lewin was - and to be absolutely fair - I thought that Walker intentionally backed into Lewin just to let him know what's what.

A foul by Walker - certainly, for me. A card - only if for persistent fouling - which in this case didn't apply.

Lewin's embelishment of the foul by grabbing his face and rolling around on the ground - disgusting.
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For me, post review of matches should work both ways - why can't players be excused from unjust cards following an unbiased review? I like the fact that retrospective punishment can occur - but why not retrospective leniency - both sendings off in this game were totally stupid and the result of a ref who was cheritably speaking off his game - or not so cheritable - totally incompetent.
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He intentionally backed in to prevent CL getting a run on him for the aerial challenge (, as happens multiple times every game) , nothing to do with him letting him know what's what.
 
spurs4life said:
Ridiculous. Do you not remember Carroll and Mendes from the halfway line? Or Gomes v Chelsea when the ball didn't cross the line, or against Chelsea where Ekotto saved it on the line and the goal was given, or when Balotelli stamped on Parker and Lescott elbowed Kaboul in the face when we lost to you guys 3-2 and neither got a red card. Or Danny Rose incorrectly being sent off at home against City.
I can reel off so many examples as can nearly every club of times where they have been cheated.
It happens. This victim mentality is ridiculous. And I say the same thing to Spurs fans too.
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Rose was correctly sent off, went to ground from behind, took Dzeko's leg before making contact with the ball. Gobsmacked that one got overturned on appeal.
 
spurs4life said:
Ridiculous. Do you not remember Carroll and Mendes from the halfway line? Or Gomes v Chelsea when the ball didn't cross the line, or against Chelsea where Ekotto saved it on the line and the goal was given, or when Balotelli stamped on Parker and Lescott elbowed Kaboul in the face when we lost to you guys 3-2 and neither got a red card. Or Danny Rose incorrectly being sent off at home against City.
I can reel off so many examples as can nearly every club of times where they have been cheated.
It happens. This victim mentality is ridiculous. And I say the same thing to Spurs fans too.
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Yeah I do remember them. Quite a long time ago most of them. I can name twice the ridiculous decisions against us from last season alone.

Not 50/50's, not even 60/40's. Straight out bizarre decisions and non decisions. And not just the one or two a season every club cops.

You can call it victim mentality. Thats a bit dramatic in my book. I'm someone that accepts refs will make mistakes. I don't think there is a conspiracy or that the FA or refs are consciously setting out to get us. But we have been on the wrong end of so many shocking devisions over the past few years it seems a bit silly to put you hands over your eyes and pretend it isnt happening.
 
Rolee said:
Rose was correctly sent off, went to ground from behind, took Dzeko's leg before making contact with the ball. Gobsmacked that one got overturned on appeal.
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Disagree and so did the panel. Clearly got the ball. Also we had a goal ruled out for offside against you lot which should have stood. Swings and roundabouts because you have had a few incorrect decisions against us recently but to sugest that we are media darlings and get ref decisions and you lot are poor old city who get bullied is a joke tbh. Im not saying you're not getting bad decisions, but it happens. I'm sure you get lots of decisions in your favour too which go unnoticed by you. This is the case with all teams.
 
moomba said:
Yeah I do remember them. Quite a long time ago most of them. I can name twice the ridiculous decisions against us from last season alone.

Not 50/50's, not even 60/40's. Straight out bizarre decisions and non decisions. And not just the one or two a season every club cops.

You can call it victim mentality. Thats a bit dramatic in my book. I'm someone that accepts refs will make mistakes. I don't think there is a conspiracy or that the FA or refs are consciously setting out to get us. But we have been on the wrong end of so many shocking devisions over the past few years it seems a bit silly to put you hands over your eyes and pretend it isnt happening.
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That's fine. So have we. So have other teams. Walker definitely pushed Sterling last season. I get it, it feels unjust. But at least you have said it's not a conspiracy.
 
spurs4life said:
Disagree and so did the panel. Clearly got the ball. Also we had a goal ruled out for offside against you lot which should have stood. Swings and roundabouts because you have had a few incorrect decisions against us recently but to sugest that we are media darlings and get ref decisions and you lot are poor old city who get bullied is a joke tbh. Im not saying you're not getting bad decisions, but it happens. I'm sure you get lots of decisions in your favour too which go unnoticed by you. This is the case with all teams.
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Rags excepted !
 
The idea that everyone gets bad decisions is true. The idea that it all balances out in the end is bollocks.
 
spurs4life said:
Ridiculous. Do you not remember Carroll and Mendes from the halfway line? Or Gomes v Chelsea when the ball didn't cross the line, or against Chelsea where Ekotto saved it on the line and the goal was given, or when Balotelli stamped on Parker and Lescott elbowed Kaboul in the face when we lost to you guys 3-2 and neither got a red card. Or Danny Rose incorrectly being sent off at home against City.
I can reel off so many examples as can nearly every club of times where they have been cheated.
It happens. This victim mentality is ridiculous. And I say the same thing to Spurs fans too.
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I can't even remember who half those players are. That's how rarely spurs get contentious decisions
 
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