Kylian Mbappe

[Tbilisi]

I think his namesake at Monaco is the one but suspect it would blow most of our budget.

Good point.Cant see us bringing much in on sales.

 

[citizens_1976]

So you say we' regret it for the next decade, when we'll presumably be watching Sané, Jesus and Sterling walking out for Coventry or something?

Jesus was the next big talent we couldn't miss out on, we signed him. Now Mbappe, same positions, we can't miss out on. Then next season there'll be Jimmy Amazeballs we can't miss out on up front.

Yet they'll all come here and take turns sitting on their thumbs every other week... will they fuck.

Once people realise it's not black and white when it comes to talented youngsters, maybe they'll stop kicking and screaming over the latest shiny new thing.

If we did sign Sanchez, I doubt we'd have Sterling at the very least.

Isco in place of Silva in a little while makes sense at least. Mbappe when we've 3 young forwards and one of the best strikers in the world in his prime years, doesn't. Certainly not to the extent of "must buy"

As I did mention, full backs are the priority for me, two rampaging full backs who can provide a fantastic balance between defence and attack would improve our side tenfold.

I also think Mbappe isn't for sale next season as players like Fabinho, Bakayoko, Bernardo Silva given their age are more likely to leave. The next season coming, we plan on bringing in two rampaging full backs, a good commanding centre half such as Van Dijk, a player like Isco to take the burden off Silva and become his replacement over the next coming seasons and then once we have sorted those positions, Mbappe the season after when he is ready to leave. Yes we already have Jesus, Aguero, Sane and Sterling, but Mbappe for any club would be a wonderful addition. I don't see many better for years to come than this kid. He is special.

 

[Afrenchguy]

He's nowhere near a "must buy" for us.

When you can buy a player like this, it's a must buy. Even if you got more important laking point.

Remind me the Trailblazers, who didnt take MJ23 cause they had someone on the 2/3 post.
Regretted it the next 20 fckin years.

Anyway, he won't be sold this summer. But next year, every club who have the money to bring on him should, and will, make an offer.

 

[Dax777]

Like Diaz and Sancho?

Perhaps. I haven't seen them against Senior players though.

 

[pudge]

When you can buy a player like this, it's a must buy. Even if you got more important laking point.

Remind me the Trailblazers, who didnt take MJ23 cause they had someone on the 2/3 post.
Regretted it the next 20 fckin years.

Anyway, he won't be sold this summer. But next year, every club who have the money to bring on him should, and will, make an offer.

A young, future Hall of Famer, no? And two All Stars, on the team.

Whom he would have had to share time with. Undoubtedly he'd have eventually shone through but change that to Sterling or Sane or Jesus, will they put up with being benched? We've bought our "forwards of the future". Sane, Sterling and Jesus were all 'sign or regret it, superstars for a decade'. Just where's the limit on those players, genuinely, you can only play 11 players.

 

[Afrenchguy]

A young, future Hall of Famer, no? And two All Stars, on the team.

Whom he would have had to share time with. Undoubtedly he'd have eventually shone through but change that to Sterling or Sane or Jesus, will they put up with being benched? We've bought our "forwards of the future". Sane, Sterling and Jesus wer

Yup, Clyde Drexler. But don't you think that if they knew, they wouldn't have let Drexler going on the bench for MJ?

If you take Mbappe, he will be in the starting XI in less than one month. Sterling still have a good cost on the market, for example. Even tough i don't see Mbappe as a winger (where he have been formed), but definitively as a striker (where he play under Jardim). Jesus will be the collateral dammage.

 

[Dax777]

I personally don't think he will be sold in the summer anyway, but as and when he comes available, you just can't rest on your laurels. French media continue to label this boy as being from a different planet and I would completely agree.

Why let anyone else particularly in the premier league take one of the most exciting talents for years when we could add him to our squad of young stars?

Pep is trying to begin a revolution at this club, Mbappe would be such a perfect signing in terms of securing what could be one of the most deadliest forward lines the world has seen for decades.

If we want to have aspirations of winning the champions league, we need to be ruthless in making our moves for exceptional talents and he is one of them. As for the defence, as I said we should be looking at prioritising that first but as and when a player like this comes available, we can't stand around twiddling our thumbs like we did when we prioritised Mangala over signing a player like Alexis Sanchez. We well and truly got our fingers burnt there.

If you go back to the thread from that season. You'd You'dsee purge made this very same argument about how Mangala was the right decision and those of us who wanted Sanchez instead just wanted to sign another shinning thing.

He was wrong then, he is wrong now, and I'm sure he'd be wrong again in the future.

And the notion that its either Mbappe or a fullback is pretty silly. Exceptional talent are always a priority even over positional needs. Smart front office people know this in every sport.

We can get 2 fullbacks and Mbappe. Its not an either or scenario. Mangala v. Sanchez was an either or Scenario coz we had FFP. Yet Sanchez was the right choice. Whined about it all summer till I was hoarse and depressed.

But this is actually different. We can get 2 new fullbacks, Maffeo and still Sign Mbappe. With no issues. So I don't know why this is even a discussion. :p

 

[BlueMedic]

Looks a talent, but we don't need him. Too many players of a similar age in similar positions, would never be able to keep them all happy.

Hopefully he stays at Monaco a few years to develop before making his move.

 

[Dax777]

Yup, Clyde Drexler. But don't you think that if they knew, they wouldn't have let Drexler going on the bench for MJ?

If you take Mbappe, he will be in the starting XI in less than one month. Sterling still have a good cost on the market, for example. Even tough i don't see Mbappe as a winger (where he have been formed), but definitively as a striker (where he play under Jardim). Jesus will be the collateral dammage.

Slow down player. Jesus is special. So is Mbappe. And I want them both on the roster.

 

[ADegenerate]

Clichy, Sagna, Zabaleta, Kolarov; 3 of which are out of contract this summer.

Sterling, Sane, Aguero, Jesus; all starting calibre, all under long contracts.

Which area screams "must buy"?

He'd be a luxury signing, for the sake of another team not getting him. Why would he come here to play every other game, at best?

You can't sign every great talent, especially if we're already well set at their position. Next season there'll be another "OMG, he's well good, we have to get him or I'll cry" player in his position that everyone will be screaming for.

I'm not so sure why you're arguing against the signing? Money is the not the issue and he wouldn't prevent sigings from our 'must buy' areas. I've heard another 200m is available, sounds about right...

Isco-25m
RB/LB-50m
GK-30m
CB-30m
Total-135. Very rough figures, just to highlight my point.

If we signed him he wouldn't be a luxury signing at all. It's because we've classified him at a higher level than just a 'great talent'. Sane/Jesus were the flavor of the month, must have talents of last year and how's that working out? They massively surpassed expectations. If we sign KM there isn't a doubt for me that the same thing will happen with this one as well.

We've lacked WC options outside of our 'best 11' for years. Having Sane/Mbappe/Raz/Jesus and Aguero isn't a luxury at all it's a necessity for our progression. Will we sign him? I really don't see it but if they rate him as highly as they did GJ/Sane and you have the option of locking him up you don't let that pass you by.

 

[ADegenerate]

Slow down player. Jesus is special. So is Mbappe. And I want them both on the roster.

People are starting to sleep on Jesus :). I don't get it.

 

[KCblue]

Clichy, Sagna, Zabaleta, Kolarov; 3 of which are out of contract this summer.

Sterling, Sane, Aguero, Jesus; all starting calibre, all under long contracts.

Which area screams "must buy"?

He'd be a luxury signing, for the sake of another team not getting him. Why would he come here to play every other game, at best?

You can't sign every great talent, especially if we're already well set at their position. Next season there'll be another "OMG, he's well good, we have to get him or I'll cry" player in his position that everyone will be screaming for.

This and this. People seem to forget we aren't the only big club that can acquire top talent players. We have added three young, potentially world class forwards in the last two summers and still have Kun yet we want to stockpile here again. We are fine in that department. He could easily see a better opportunity to play elsewhere. IMHO don't see him leaving Monaco until next summer unless an insane fee comes in, they have plenty of players rumored to leave and if they even sold three of them they could hold on to the rest and do just fine. They may win Ligue 1 and will certainly be in the CL next season. Not saying that won't make them sellers, but those are legitimate reasons to hold on to some of their talent.

 

[cucumberman]

Mbappe looks the part but we have a similar player or two in our team and one or two coming through the academy. If he's moving and we are not interested I hope he doesnt come to this league, and we can invest on a few defenders.

 

[pudge]

I'm not so sure why you're arguing against the signing? Money is the not the issue and he wouldn't prevent sigings from our 'must buy' areas. I've heard another 200m is available, sounds about right...

Isco-25m
RB/LB-50m
GK-30m
CB-30m
Total-135. Very rough figures, just to highlight my point.

If we signed him he wouldn't be a luxury signing at all. It's because we've classified him at a higher level than just a 'great talent'. Sane/Jesus were the flavor of the month, must have talents of last year and how's that working out? They massively surpassed expectations. If we sign KM there isn't a doubt for me that the same thing will happen with this one as well.

We've lacked WC options outside of our 'best 11' for years. Having Sane/Mbappe/Raz/Jesus and Aguero isn't a luxury at all it's a necessity for our progression. Will we sign him? I really don't see it but if they rate him as highly as they did GJ/Sane and you have the option of locking him up you don't let that pass you by.

Exactly.

Cheers for making my point. I'm sure Mbappe will see that and go "Nope, I'll go where I'll start every week like I am now"

As for the Mangala point, not addressing you personally @ADegenerate, we certainly did require a CB over any other position. Would I take Sanchez over Jesus, Sane or Sterling now? Nope.

Mangala just didn't work out but as for addressing the CB issue, it was absolutely right to do.

 

[ADegenerate]

Exactly.

Cheers for making my point. I'm sure Mbappe will see that and go "Nope, I'll go where I'll start every week like I am now"

As for the Mangala point, not addressing you personally @ADegenerate, we certainly did require a CB over any other position. Would I take Sanchez over Jesus, Sane or Sterling now? Nope.

Mangala just didn't work out but as for addressing the CB issue, it was absolutely right to do.

What point is that? The point I was making was that there shouldn't be any reason to be against the signing from a city POV. I don't think he'll come either for what it's worth. I'd stay or go to a club where I'd start every week too like you mentioned but it's Pep Guardiola...wages...and the biggest project in the world.

As far as the Mangala thread. I wasn't on the site then but I probably would have argued for Mangala over Sanchez back then too if that's what you guys are talking about :P.

 

[Afrenchguy]

You're wrong for the starting XI point.
He will Monaco where Monaco tell him to go, nothing more ^^
Except if they got several offers of the same amount :p

 

[BlueDeadHead]

You're wrong for the starting XI point.
He will Monaco where Monaco tell him to go, nothing more ^^
Except if they got several offers of the same amount :p

naive is a french word, non?

 

[jamiecav]

Maybe we dont need fullbacks cos pep isnt going to play any. Just play enough fast forwards that they can sprint back if needed, rush goalie style!

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

A special talent is a special talent regardless of the league. A better question might be to ask if the skill set you see from him will transition and for me it's definitely yes.

There isn't anything wrong with your assessment of where the money would be spent but I'd swap out the CB purchase for this kid. Aleks has shown he's more than capable, give vinnie another year, and don't give up on Nico just yet.

Personally, I don't think we have much of a chance at him unless Aguero leaves and that probability is is shrinking each week. I haven't seen enough of him to compare him to gabriel but @MillionDollarDream might be able to give you a good answer there.

True, I just don't want it to harm Sancho's development, as I think he'll be truly first class.
Sane, Sterling, Jesus, and if we get him, Mbappe, still need that world-class attacker to learn from. If it was me, I'd get Sanchez and give Sancho a try. If Mbappe turns out to be this world-beater, he won't be that much more expensive than what we'd be paying for an 18 year old.

 

[Kompany is King]

Out of interest. How many wingers did Pep have at Bayern. I can think of Robben, Ribery, Coman & Costa. Just wondering if I missed anyone?

Could Pep be looking to bring in 2 forwards/wingers in the summer to add competition?

I'm not forgetting Sancho or Diaz. I want them to get some game time too. Glad I'm not Pep.