shaundickov said:
ElanJo said:
I feel your pain with regards to seeing people voting themselves(stealing) money off others, but, truth be told, you, and others like you who rail against socialist scum, are no different. You also support the forceful withdrawal of money etc from the populace. You just want it in different amounts, from different areas and for different reasons.
Yep I think everyone should be forced to pay for a things like a police force and an army incase we're invaded, but there are hundreds of taxes I'm against, and the idea that because you're rich you have to pay a higher percentage of your earnings than a poor person is so totally unfair it beggars belief. So is the fact that if you put your kid through private education you still have to contribute to state education.
I'm interested in your view though - do you think society would be better without police?
I sympathise with you, and would have agreed with you some 12 months ago, concerning a "Nightwatchmen State" (presuming that is all that you think a gov. should be concerning itself with) and , truth be told, I would love this to occur (I'm not against small gains, as I realise my perfect view of society is a multi-generational, almost entirely educational, development - a whole new enlightenment) but on one condition - the police and army are funded voluntarily, atleast eventually (not against small gains, as I said). I'd still be going on and on about the evils of such a system, mind you :P
It has taken years and alot of de-propagandizing for me to come to terms with, and embrace, a stateless society. Doing so whilst coming through State controlled education is, as you could imagine, pretty difficult ;) and I do believe society would be better without a monopolistic state run police force. For me to explain why would take a lot of effort (and typing) because ,well, society, and the effects of the state on society, the family, and the individual, (almost completely negative) is a complex maze of interactions. With that said, I do plan on writing up an indepth essay, dare I say - Manifesto :O , as to why a State is evil, both in practical terms and philosophically, and why, and how, a Stateless society would be the opposite. I'm sure everyone here cannot wait for that :P