Labour or Conservative?

[shaundickov]

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Makes me fucking sick, but then again I can see why the likes of TMQ will continue to vote for these criminals, because let's face it people who have money should be FORCED to give it away to people who don't have it.

One day you might be required to turn to the state, in fact I'm willing to wager that you already have, maybe then you'll change you view slightly.

I have, I was a student. I've been very poor too. I'm from a working class background but I've been fairly successful in business. But even when I had nothing, I have never changed my view that it is immoral and unfair for rich people to be FORCED under threat of prison to hand over their money to poor people.

But I can understand why poor people vote for Labour in their droves, because they know that a left-wing government is out to screw rich people out of as much of their money as they can, whether through business taxes or inheritance tax - and they will directly benefit from it. At the end of the day you want what's best for your family.

I've just never been able to stomach the principle behind it. Seems completely criminal to me.

 

[OneLove_OneLife_OneCity]

Silly Party.

I'll just put a large X across my paper as I would not be happy if either got in.

 

[ernesto]

Oh and please tell me what is wrong with equality?

Let me repeat my earlier question - do you think City should be forced to field a certain number of women in the team in the interests of equality?

Because its clear to me that women are vastly under-represented in football.

perhaps if they were blonde haired blue eyed ayrians would that make you feel better

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

The referendum on the EU is vital. I beleived the bollox Heath told us about it being a common market (What a fool) then it became European Economic Community and now the European Union. I voted for an inter-country trade agreement not another layer of unelected corrupt government

 

[MCRJON]

My reasons for voting generaqlly fall on economic reasons as i have a financial background. However, having only graduated last summer and having struggled to initally find a job, my experiance with Labours New Deal scheme led to only further my thoughts that the goverment is a complete shambles.

When Brown declared there was no more boom and bust he should of been shot at dawn. The economy will allways have peaks and troffs in its natural progression, my view is that is a goverments job to control these flows, ie minimize their effects. Labour simply allowed the boom to continue indefinatly with very few restrictions on spending.

Imagine winding up an elastic band again and again, eventually its going to snap. During the global boom the Labour party should of raised taxes and created a surpless in the economy - however they wished to appear popular rather than competant so allowed the mass spending to continue.

Now that the global economoy has taken a downturn we have a deficit of £512bn and the goverment want to spend more. I shudder to think about how taxes will have to rise in the future to compencate for this. Expect in 2009 the higher income tax band to hit 50%.

Brown keeps claiming that other EU contries are spending their way out of the recession, what he fails to realise is that these countries raised taxes and saved money during the boom and as such have economic surplesses to spend. Meaning they can lower taxes and help business in a way that will not cripal the country.

So for the above reasons i willl vote Tory. They will be left with an allmighty mess to clean up, which will mean lots of unpopular decisions so expect a lot of spin in the coming years.

 

[ernesto]

capitalism has had its day, the only people who truly benefit under this archaic system are the rich, who when it comes to crunch withdraw their money and let the majority suffer, the only time the working classes truly tried to change it was after ww2 but the rich slowly but surely irradicated those changes, and yes this new labour government is as guilty as the tories.

 

[kronkonite]

true
no one should be better off than anyone else
everyone should be educated to degree standard irrespective of intelligence

divide the work available into those that want to work

 

[ElanJo]

However, just remember, no matter how bad things are for the average working man, they would always be worse under the Tories. They govern exclusively for their chosen few and seem to have made no attempt to move away from this under this cretin.

You are so wrong here. In fact, your accusation about governing for their chosen few is more apt if you mean Labour.

As a small business owner struggling to make a profit in difficult times, Labour have increased the corporation tax I have to pay by 3% from 19% to 22%.

The tories will reduce this to 20% if they get in. So whilst it's not perfect, it's a step in the right direction.

I'm sure Labour are busy spending that extra tax I've just paid them on things like ID card preparations, benefits for people who can't be arsed to get a job, asylum seeker accommodation or translators for the police etc.

Makes me fucking sick, but then again I can see why the likes of TMQ will continue to vote for these criminals, because let's face it people who have money should be FORCED to give it away to people who don't have it.

One day you might be required to turn to the state, in fact I'm willing to wager that you already have, maybe then you'll change you view slightly.

I have, I was a student. I've been very poor too. I'm from a working class background but I've been fairly successful in business. But even when I had nothing, I have never changed my view that it is immoral and unfair for rich people to be FORCED under threat of prison to hand over their money to poor people.

But I can understand why poor people vote for Labour in their droves, because they know that a left-wing government is out to screw rich people out of as much of their money as they can, whether through business taxes or inheritance tax - and they will directly benefit from it. At the end of the day you want what's best for your family.

I've just never been able to stomach the principle behind it. Seems completely criminal to me.

I feel your pain with regards to seeing people voting themselves(stealing) money off others, but, truth be told, you, and others like you who rail against socialist scum, are no different. You also support the forceful withdrawal of money etc from the populace. You just want it in different amounts, from different areas and for different reasons.

State ('democracy') is a fucking sham. A cancer. Responsible for the largest losses of life, alone in the last century ffs, in the entire history of our existence. It dumbfounds me how anyone can be so fucking naive/dumb/evil/ (take your pick) as to continue supporting it. And TheMightyQuinn gets depressed thinking about a few BNP voters!? Give me fucking strength! It was your government(along with France's), your system......your philosophy that created WW2!

 

[ElanJo]

true
no one should be better off than anyone else
everyone should be educated to degree standard irrespective of intelligence

divide the work available into those that want to work

Sorry, but you are either 15 years old, or a fucking lunatic.

(and I mean that in the nicest possible way, you know? .. but.. just...argh... come on man!!)

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

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Makes me fucking sick, but then again I can see why the likes of TMQ will continue to vote for these criminals, because let's face it people who have money should be FORCED to give it away to people who don't have it.

One day you might be required to turn to the state, in fact I'm willing to wager that you already have, maybe then you'll change you view slightly.

I have, I was a student. I've been very poor too. I'm from a working class background but I've been fairly successful in business. But even when I had nothing, I have never changed my view that it is immoral and unfair for rich people to be FORCED under threat of prison to hand over their money to poor people.

But I can understand why poor people vote for Labour in their droves, because they know that a left-wing government is out to screw rich people out of as much of their money as they can, whether through business taxes or inheritance tax - and they will directly benefit from it. At the end of the day you want what's best for your family.

I've just never been able to stomach the principle behind it. Seems completely criminal to me.

When someone's over riding concern and argument regarding politics is keeping as much money in their own pocket and completely exclusive self interest then there really is little point in getting into a debate.

You are the mirror image of your bogey man "scroungers voting for whoever gives them the most money" with no regard for the wider implications.

If either group, both of which share a lot of common ground, (although if you think that the small amount of people who 'scrounge' and are arsed to vote on this basis is anything significant then you are deluded) were to be allowed to get completely their own way the country would cease to function with months.

Stick to your simplistic "I want to keep all my money" mantra. The Daily Mail should keep your pecker up, even if, hopefully, we never get a goverment who is idiotic enough to view things in such simplistic terms.