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Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout
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Citizen of Legoland
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Corbyn statement; he's digging in.
Daz_Blue
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What are the chances of the right of the Labour party and the left of the Tory party forming a new SDP type party ?
Can this happen ?
Can this happen ?
gordondaviesmoustache
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I think the prime reason for the disconnect between the electorate and those it elects to represent it is our electoral system.
People say FPTP provides strong government, but it could equally be said that it usually allows one political party, once it's reached the critical mass of 36% of the votes cast, to do pretty much what the fuck they want for half a decade. How can that be healthy for our democracy? How can that truly represent the will of the people? Is it any wonder that politicians don't feel they need to listen to the electorate, especially when they've got a safe seat? They know they don't need to listen because our voting system protects them from having to.
I know attenuated electoral reform was put to the electorate half a decade or so ago, but the political landscape has hugely changed since then. It's hugely changed in the last week! As much as I dislike their politics, the number of MPs UKIP have compared to their share of the vote at the last GE is an absolute disgrace and hugely undemocratic.
We desperately need to change our broadly nineteenth century political system, and if we do, perhaps the calibre of politician will improve accordingly. It's got to be worth a shot, surely.
People say FPTP provides strong government, but it could equally be said that it usually allows one political party, once it's reached the critical mass of 36% of the votes cast, to do pretty much what the fuck they want for half a decade. How can that be healthy for our democracy? How can that truly represent the will of the people? Is it any wonder that politicians don't feel they need to listen to the electorate, especially when they've got a safe seat? They know they don't need to listen because our voting system protects them from having to.
I know attenuated electoral reform was put to the electorate half a decade or so ago, but the political landscape has hugely changed since then. It's hugely changed in the last week! As much as I dislike their politics, the number of MPs UKIP have compared to their share of the vote at the last GE is an absolute disgrace and hugely undemocratic.
We desperately need to change our broadly nineteenth century political system, and if we do, perhaps the calibre of politician will improve accordingly. It's got to be worth a shot, surely.
Monkfish
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What are the chances of the right of the Labour party and the left of the Tory party forming a new SDP type party ?
Can this happen ?
Well it's being floated as an idea in Westminster circles apparently
gordondaviesmoustache
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I think it's quite possible and certainly something I would greatly welcome.What are the chances of the right of the Labour party and the left of the Tory party forming a new SDP type party ?
Can this happen ?
Daz_Blue
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Me too I have always considered myself to be just left of center .....most I agree with are Labour/Democrats in USA policies and less but some policies from Tories/Republicans
urban genie
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What are the chances of the right of the Labour party and the left of the Tory party forming a new SDP type party ?
Can this happen ?
It could happen, after all if this carries on it looks like the labour party will split anyway and they will need to go somewhere
FantasyIreland
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I too think that would be a great idea but choosing a leader would be the issue.I think it's quite possible and certainly something I would greatly welcome.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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What are the chances of the right of the Labour party and the left of the Tory party forming a new SDP type party ?
Can this happen ?
Something like that needs to happen, I voted remain and accept the result. Will need some calm heads and steady hand to sort out what's coming and renegotiating with Europe. All I see is MPs on a power grab and knifing each other in the back in both sides.