Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout

East Level 2 said:
True, but the terrorist loving muppet went up in my estimation the other day when he failed to recognise Ant and Dec.
And Victoria Derbyshire should have been sacked for asking the question in the first place. BBC - your choice for dumbing down.
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To be fair to the BBC they have been very consistent in using any means possible to smear Corbyn, pity they don't mention any of his policies that many in leafy tory heartland of Guildford most people are in favour of
 
law74 said:
Getting the millions that have been "turned off politics" because "they're all the same" is the challenge for Labour now, & Corbyn and his "common sense" politics is doing that.
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I have heard this mantra trotted out several times but there is actually not a jot of evidence this is factually correct, I know Corbyns' supporters hope it is true.
 
LP result at 11:45.

I'm calling it 3 minutes after Corbyn speech,Alistair Campbell is on the BBC along with his mates being paid by his PR firm (McTiernan,Mann) calling for a split to the party.
 
Increased mandates for Corbyn despite the purge, the lies and the slander from "progress" etc.
Now can the PLP do what they are elected to do and oppose the tory ideologically driven redistribution of our nations wealth.
 
mat said:
LP result at 11:45.

I'm calling it 3 minutes after Corbyn speech,Alistair Campbell is on the BBC along with his mates being paid by his PR firm (McTiernan,Mann) calling for a split to the party.
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2 minutes.

Louise Haig straight to BBC journalists slagging the re-elected leader off.

Now Umunna from Campbell's PR group perspective speaking.
 
Corbyn gets a landslide with his cult of merry followers. Shame we won't have any creditable opposition for a long time now.
 
As the Economist said this week - Britain is now a one party state. Labour under Corbyn will become a far left protest group - good at raising awareness of specific issues, less good at putting together a comprehensive mandate for government. Labour has effectively merged with the socialist workers and will have fewer than 100 MPs after the next general election. I fear that many labour votes will go to UKIP. There is no way back now. Labour will never be a party of government again but for many in its ranks that's not an issue; ultimately there will be a centre left force in British politics but it won't be the Labour Party and hopefully Luddites like Woodley, McCluskey and Prentice will have nothing to do with it.
 
The deluded sad old man thinks this is a triumph and he will now live on his mandate based on 303,200 people voting for him. To put things in to perspective the Green Party received more votes in the 2015 GE. Corbyn and moment have destroyed the Labour party alienating members and transforming it in to the Socialist Worker Party handing power to the tories for the next 10 years.
 
nmc said:
As the Economist said this week - Britain is now a one party state. Labour under Corbyn will become a far left protest group - good at raising awareness of specific issues, less good at putting together a comprehensive mandate for government. Labour has effectively merged with the socialist workers and will have fewer than 100 MPs after the next general election. I fear that many labour votes will go to UKIP. There is no way back now. Labour will never be a party of government again but for many in its ranks that's not an issue; ultimately there will be a centre left force in British politics but it won't be the Labour Party and hopefully Luddites like Woodley, McCluskey and Prentice will have nothing to do with it.
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It depends on IF the right wing within the party realise that their time is over and back the elected leader, go off in a huff, or continue to try and undermine Corbyn.
The power of the MSM is waiting rapidly and with 300,000+ willing to take the message to the doors that their is a better way, there is a fairer way, if the party unite, the tories will be history.
 
Its good that the doom mongers have something other than brexit to be pessimistic about. Even if labour do become a far left party of "issues" and never get elected, they might do a better job of holding a Tory govt to account than a Tory-lite labour opposition composed of the sort of people who will say anything to gain power? We already have the lib dems for that.
 
law74 said:
It depends on IF the right wing within the party realise that their time is over and back the elected leader, go off in a huff, or continue to try and undermine Corbyn.
The power of the MSM is waiting rapidly and with 300,000+ willing to take the message to the doors that their is a better way, there is a fairer way, if the party unite, the tories will be history.
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Some interesting voting this week

Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour scores a hat-trick of council by-election victories in one evening.

The Labour Party gained local control of two councils from the Conservatives and one from the SNP.

The election victories
Green and UKIP voters showed a clear preference for Labour over the Conservatives in Arley & Whitacre (North Warwickshire):

Arley & Whitacre (North Warwickshire) result:
LAB: 59.7% (+33.7)
CON: 40.3% (+1.7)
Greens and UKIP didn't stand this time round.

The other Labour victory over the Conservatives was in Christchurch (Allerdale):

Christchurch (Allerdale) result:
LAB: 40.7% (+5.8)
LDEM: 29.4% (+20.0)
CON: 25.9% (-19.3)
UKIP: 4.0% (+4.0)

Over in Scotland, Corbyn’s Labour won North & Glenboig (North Lanarkshire) from the SNP. Moving away from local councils, this gain comes after Labour lost 40 of its 41 Scottish constituencies to the SNP in the 2015 general election. Vice UK summed up this loss in the following way:

Labour’s popularity has plummeted after joining forces with the Conservatives – a toxic brand in Scotland – to campaign against independence. This earned them the moniker “Red Tories”.

There were seven councils contested on 22 September. Corbyn’s Labour began the day with one and ended with four, as the Conservatives bled votes on all fronts.
 
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