Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr Show

[i kne albert davy]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I wouldn't trust that lot again as far as I could throw them, do they think we've forgotten the last time:

Labour's gross mismanagement of the economy was laid bare today after it was revealed a former minister left his successor a note that said 'there was no money left'.
In a stark message left in a Treasury desk, outgoing chief secretary to the Treasury Liam Byrne wrote simply: 'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left.'
(2010)

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Its the Daily Mail!!!!!!!

The Beano is more accurate on Polotics that fucking joke of a rag

But a senior Labour member of the Treasury found it funny that they bankrupted the country? I don't read the Mail but I remember that quote and looked it up - and I'll vote Tory in future.

The Country was never bankrupt or in any danger of becoming so.

 

[metalblue]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I wouldn't trust that lot again as far as I could throw them, do they think we've forgotten the last time:

Labour's gross mismanagement of the economy was laid bare today after it was revealed a former minister left his successor a note that said 'there was no money left'.
In a stark message left in a Treasury desk, outgoing chief secretary to the Treasury Liam Byrne wrote simply: 'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left.'
(2010)

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Its the Daily Mail!!!!!!!

The Beano is more accurate on Polotics that fucking joke of a rag

I'm confused. Are you saying the note wasn't left? Or is there something specific in the article you dispute?

Anyway I'm more confused why Balls is saying they need to keep spending levels down? is he saying the spending cuts were required now? and he says they will be responsible with the economy if elected...weren't they before?

 

[law74]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

While a pledge to raise the minimum wage is to be commended, 25p per hour rise each year is not going anywhere near far enough.
We need to get away from the idea that big businesses can pay very little in wages knowing that the government will meet their staffs economic shortfall with housing benefit and tax credit payments, and employers should not be allowed to circumnavigate employment legislation by the manipulation of zero hour contracts, and temporary fixed term contracts.
Dont have a lot of time for the modern day labour party as they are far too right wing to be of real benefit to the majority of the people of this once great nation, but they are by far the best of the three realistic options to form the next government, another term of tory misrule and we can say goodbye to the concept of healthcare free to all at the point of delivery, free education, and a social security safety net if we are unlucky enough to fall ill or without a job.

Until Left Unity or another Socialist party gain the strength needed to fight a general election campaign with a real chance of success, then Labour is by far the best of a bad bunch.

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Its the Daily Mail!!!!!!!

The Beano is more accurate on Polotics that fucking joke of a rag

But a senior Labour member of the Treasury found it funny that they bankrupted the country? I don't read the Mail but I remember that quote and looked it up - and I'll vote Tory in future.

The Country was never bankrupt or in any danger of becoming so.

Correct, this is old news, and it was a joke at the time from outgoing to incoming staff, nothing more

 

[mackenzie]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I really dislike the rhetoric about how raising the National Minimum Wage will somehow create mass unemployment. It's scaremongering and division tactics at best. FFS, 8 quid an hour is hardly going to leave people dripping in diamonds is it?!!
A living wage for those who work hard long hours should be a foregone conclusion, not a pie in the sky dream.

 

[Rascal]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

But a senior Labour member of the Treasury found it funny that they bankrupted the country? I don't read the Mail but I remember that quote and looked it up - and I'll vote Tory in future.

A joke letter. and that will decide who you vote for

How fucking shallow and ignorant is that?

Vote on the issues by all means but on a joke letter FFS ....you sad ****

 

[Rascal]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I'm confused. Are you saying the note wasn't left? Or is there something specific in the article you dispute?

Anyway I'm more confused why Balls is saying they need to keep spending levels down? is he saying the spending cuts were required now? and he says they will be responsible with the economy if elected...weren't they before?

Im not doubting there was a note, but im sure it was left as an "in" joke to be honest.

You know and i know it wasnt the case and was nowhere near the case. It was a massive mistake by Bryant though and it gave the Tories leverage to ramp austerity up and dismantle the state even further they had planned.


Balls confuses me. He is a decent bloke, but he is caught between ideas and appears not to know where to turn. His speech today was excellent but full of messages i found mixed. I think his wife would be a better Chancellor to be honest and Ed would do well at the Foreign office. My view only of course.


What i am liking is that Labour has some real talent coming through. Chuka is a star in the making and i dont see any rising Tory stars apart from them remploying Boris.

Its going to be very interesting the build up to the next GE as i think the right may implode due to UKIP, the left will have the Greens growing stronger and the middle ground Lib Dems could be decimated.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Very basic point ... But is there any country in the world that doesn't have a majority of its nation classed as 'poor' ?

No matter who the government is the majority of people are going to be given just enough to get by with there bills, running a car and a holiday once a year. That is the world we live in.

Unless our whole philosophy in life changes and some sort of full scale revolution happens then people can just argue over who's better out of Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems bla bla bla labour 'screw up the economy' Torys 'only care about the rich', same old cliches all the whilst the status quo remains.

 

[Rascal]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Very basic point ... But is there any country in the world that doesn't have a majority of its nation classed as 'poor' ?

No matter who the government is the majority of people are going to be given just enough to get by with there bills, running a car and a holiday once a year. That is the world we live in.

Unless our whole philosophy in life changes and some sort of full scale revolution happens then people can just argue over who's better our of Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems bla bla bla all whilst the status quo remains.

Cuba perhaps

But they are commies so you will never hear that.

Simple fact of the matter is a boss earning 130 times what his workers are earning is just fucking shameful and downright fucking disgusting.

 

[sir baconface]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

How the actual fuck has Ed Balls still got a job in the Labour Party?

Leave him alone, mate. He's a reminder of why nobody can trust them on the economy.