Lampard: MCFC vs NYCFC

ChicagoBlue

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I'm not going to give Sam Wallace (The Independent, Dec 16) the pleasure of reposting his ridiculous article, but why is it that journos cannot simply understand that Lampard may well stay at City until the MLS season actually starts?

NYCFC is going to be training in Manchester. Lampard is going to be training in Manchester. The big difference is, Lampard will not need a pre-season, as he will be deep into the most physically demanding league in the world and plenty match fit!

Yaya will be at AFCON for a bit and Lampard, who will not need a pre-season, will spend that time covering for him at MCFC, while his new team will be wearing their runners to get fit and not their studs in the hurly burly that is the Premier League.

Why is this so difficult to understand? And, why is everyone making out like this is somehow some perversion of the loan system? Chelsea have teams of players out on loan and didn't want to offer Lampard a contract and then loan him out, so CFG did. End of.

It really is pathetic and beyond the level of the most rudimentary comprehension of real life to suggest that either MCFC or NYCFC are going to have any issues with him playing at MCFC, and the manner in which supposed sports journos are making it an issue is approaching absurdity.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I'm not going to give Sam Wallace (The Independent, Dec 16) the pleasure of reposting his ridiculous article, but why is it that journos cannot simply understand that Lampard may well stay at City until the MLS season actually starts?

NYCFC is going to be training in Manchester. Lampard is going to be training in Manchester. The big difference is, Lampard will not need a pre-season, as he will be deep into the most physically demanding league in the world and plenty match fit!

Yaya will be at AFCON for a bit and Lampard, who will not need a pre-season, will spend that time covering for him at MCFC, while his new team will be wearing their runners to get fit and not their studs in the hurly burly that is the Premier League.

Why is this so difficult to understand? And, why is everyone making out like this is somehow some perversion of the loan system? Chelsea have teams of players out on loan and didn't want to offer Lampard a contract and then loan him out, so CFG did. End of.

It really is pathetic and beyond the level of the most rudimentary comprehension of real life to suggest that either MCFC or NYCFC are going to have any issues with him playing at MCFC, and the manner in which supposed sports journos are making it an issue is approaching absurdity.

its called desperation mate, jealousy, fear and desperation. enjoy.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I'm not going to give Sam Wallace (The Independent, Dec 16) the pleasure of reposting his ridiculous article, but why is it that journos cannot simply understand that Lampard may well stay at City until the MLS season actually starts?

NYCFC is going to be training in Manchester. Lampard is going to be training in Manchester. The big difference is, Lampard will not need a pre-season, as he will be deep into the most physically demanding league in the world and plenty match fit!

Yaya will be at AFCON for a bit and Lampard, who will not need a pre-season, will spend that time covering for him at MCFC, while his new team will be wearing their runners to get fit and not their studs in the hurly burly that is the Premier League.

Why is this so difficult to understand? And, why is everyone making out like this is somehow some perversion of the loan system? Chelsea have teams of players out on loan and didn't want to offer Lampard a contract and then loan him out, so CFG did. End of.

It really is pathetic and beyond the level of the most rudimentary comprehension of real life to suggest that either MCFC or NYCFC are going to have any issues with him playing at MCFC, and the manner in which supposed sports journos are making it an issue is approaching absurdity.

They are programmed to write the drivel they do because that is the slant their paymasters want. Compare that to the puffery emanating from the dyed-in-the-wool RagDipperMeedya! Everything is a positive.
 
Its weird coz at the same time they are linking Defoe, Keane etc with a move back till March. Landon Donovan did it twice, Henry too
 
Right or wrong, this is making MCFC very hated over here in NYC. Plartly because a lot of NYCFC fans support other PL clubs, partly because they feel even at this stage, NYCFC is just as important in the City Group & partly because the vast majority of them are young stupid assholes.
 
Can someone please explain to me how City are benefitting from loaning him from NYCFC rather than simply signing him as a free agent as with hindsight we perhaps should have done? If I'm not mistaken, it has already been confirmed that we are paying his wages in full for the duration of the loan. So what exactly is there for anyone to possibly complain about?
 
jaigurugoat said:
Can someone please explain to me how City are benefitting from loaning him from NYCFC rather than simply signing him as a free agent as with hindsight we perhaps should have done? If I'm not mistaken, it has already been confirmed that we are paying his wages in full for the duration of the loan. So what exactly is there for anyone to possibly complain about?

Because he's doing well for Manchester City.
If he was playing shit and not getting a game,they would all be taking the piss and saying what a waste of money(wages)he's been.
 
I hope we can even extend him for another season. I read somewhere the possibility of keeping him 18 months, but I don't know how true that is.

Maybe this is being optimistic but I think Frank has a couple more years at the top in him and we might be able to have him around for another season as well. He's far too good to have that talent going to MLS right now.
 
I still think there's a game of chess being played and he'll leave us by March. Certainly won't be here for the entire season.

City Football Group need to clearly show the teams are independent and treated equally. What better way than for us to try keep Frank, only for him to go to NYCFC because that was the agreement? This would take the eyes off of us and down the line we can benefit from the partnership, but keeping the first player loaned to us will only paint a giant target on City Football Group and its intentions.
 
grandsolo said:
Right or wrong, this is making MCFC very hated over here in NYC. Plartly because a lot of NYCFC fans support other PL clubs, partly because they feel even at this stage, NYCFC is just as important in the City Group & partly because the vast majority of them are young stupid assholes.

Who are these people and which (if any) MLS team were they supporting before NYC came along?

If another PL team came along and funded a team in Boston I'd be nowhere near it!
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
grandsolo said:
Right or wrong, this is making MCFC very hated over here in NYC. Plartly because a lot of NYCFC fans support other PL clubs, partly because they feel even at this stage, NYCFC is just as important in the City Group & partly because the vast majority of them are young stupid assholes.

Who are these people and which (if any) MLS team were they supporting before NYC came along?

If another PL team came along and funded a team in Boston I'd be nowhere near it!
A lot of the members on their forum. They're all Everton, Arsenal, Scum, Dippers and Spurs fans who seem to already hate us. At any opportunity they love to slag us off, most MCFC fans who go over to their forum get abused 24/7.

It's only for MODS like Falustur that stop them from becoming anti-mcfc FC.
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
grandsolo said:
Right or wrong, this is making MCFC very hated over here in NYC. Plartly because a lot of NYCFC fans support other PL clubs, partly because they feel even at this stage, NYCFC is just as important in the City Group & partly because the vast majority of them are young stupid assholes.

Who are these people and which (if any) MLS team were they supporting before NYC came along?

If another PL team came along and funded a team in Boston I'd be nowhere near it!
A lot of the members on their forum. They're all Everton, Arsenal, Scum, Dippers and Spurs fans who seem to already hate us. At any opportunity they love to slag us off, most MCFC fans who go over to their forum get abused 24/7.

It's only for MODS like Falustur that stop them from becoming anti-mcfc FC.

that seems very strange as NYCFC was from the very begining a sister club to MCFC and was set up by our owners
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
grandsolo said:
Right or wrong, this is making MCFC very hated over here in NYC. Plartly because a lot of NYCFC fans support other PL clubs, partly because they feel even at this stage, NYCFC is just as important in the City Group & partly because the vast majority of them are young stupid assholes.

Who are these people and which (if any) MLS team were they supporting before NYC came along?

If another PL team came along and funded a team in Boston I'd be nowhere near it!
A lot of the members on their forum. They're all Everton, Arsenal, Scum, Dippers and Spurs fans who seem to already hate us. At any opportunity they love to slag us off, most MCFC fans who go over to their forum get abused 24/7.

It's only for MODS like Falustur that stop them from becoming anti-mcfc FC.
they don't like us ,because as you say they have other clubs,lampard is just the latest stick to beat us with,even though everyone knows lampard will be in ny for the beginning of their season I cant wait until the first top class kid to come through nyc academy gets shipped to beswick (that is really gonna piss them of ,this is not a dig at the nyc fanswho understand they are part of city ,and there will be mutual benefits,its aimed at the ones who think nyc should be a separate thing ,its mindboggling to thihk they cant get their heads around the fact they will only exist because of mcfc,
 
pirate said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Who are these people and which (if any) MLS team were they supporting before NYC came along?

If another PL team came along and funded a team in Boston I'd be nowhere near it!
A lot of the members on their forum. They're all Everton, Arsenal, Scum, Dippers and Spurs fans who seem to already hate us. At any opportunity they love to slag us off, most MCFC fans who go over to their forum get abused 24/7.

It's only for MODS like Falustur that stop them from becoming anti-mcfc FC.

that seems very strange as NYCFC was from the very begining a sister club to MCFC and was set up by our owners
Exactly, so who were these "fans" supporting before NYCFC was born ? Not that I actually care, City will define what happens with Lampard.
 
That's not really surprising though. They are plastics that know NYCFC will likely rival the Galaxy as a MLS power, and plastics that they are, want to only support a winner. But they've been brainwashed with anti-City garbage for so long, they are just in denial.
 
Exactly when do NYCFC supporters qualify to have an opinion on their own club, or be able to defend it?

I know some on here didnt think Melbourne Heart supporters had a right to be upset about their colours so 5 years clearly isnt enough.I

Some of them go over the top, but I reckon they've got every right to be uneasy about Lampard. Maybe it would help if we made a decision and communicated it. This wait and see approach is just feeding those that don't need much of an excuse to go on an anti City rant.
 
It's because they are about to lose the FFP stick to beat us with as we are now a profitable football club. They've had to find new ways to slag the club off so now instead of us failing FFP and ruining football it's now every single action the club does is some clever scheme to avoid FFP and ruin football.
 
As mentioned on the first page, Lampard would be best suited to continue at Man City until the start of the MLS season (or at least given enough time to integrate into their team with the other players) especially as he'd just be training if he went back to NY at the start of January.
 
moomba said:
Exactly when do NYCFC supporters qualify to have an opinion on their own club, or be able to defend it?
Well I would say that to be a supporter of a club, that club needs to have actually kicked a ball in anger. As asked earlier in the thread, where did these "supporters" come from ? How ironic if there are Liverpool supporters, who count themselves as NYCFC supporters, given there constant whinging about 'istry.

Melbourne is a different beast altogether, as they were an established club that was simply taken over, their fans have every right to not like things that weren't part of their tradition.
 
So they should take no interest in the building of their squad for the next season? Just accept what they're given with a shrug of their shoulders. And then flip a switch in March and wonder what happened?

For me it doesnt matter where their supporter come from, or who else they support. I'll judge them on what they do. Like I said, some are over the top, and some are letting their "other club" feelings override their NYCFC feelings. But most are just looking forward to their club playing its first games.
 

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