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Lampard: MCFC vs NYCFC
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Innsbruckblue
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How can a football club that hasn't played any fixtures have fans?
How can you support a football team that has yet to play a game?
Was it not quite obvious right from the start to those 'fans/supporters' in New York that NYCFC was being formed as a sister club to City? It was plainly obvious to me. Everybody knew this from the start, they also knew what colours would be worn by the team.
I'm actually really disappointed with the reaction of these 'so-called' NYCFC supporters, complaining that Frank won't be joining them for the start of their season. Are you really so short-sighted to not see that our clubs will be helping each other, working together in the future, and will be very closely linked? Well, I'm so sorry that 'your' player might miss the first 2 months of your season because he has decided to help your sister club try to win a championship, and you really want to deny him that glory? If that's how much you care about your future players, then I'm afraid you've lost my good will.
If he does stay at City til the end of the English season, and then joins NYCFC, then you 'supporters' should be happy to receive a (hopefully) championship winner, in peak match fitness, ready to blast his way through the MLS. Alternatively, he could join you now and lose his match sharpness in the next couple of months, meaning he has to start all over again.
You're helping us by letting us have him til the end of our season - we're helping you by keeping him in peak condition for yours.
If you don't like this sister club arrangement, then go and 'support' Red Bull or the Cosmos, because the CFG doesn't want you.
How can you support a football team that has yet to play a game?
Was it not quite obvious right from the start to those 'fans/supporters' in New York that NYCFC was being formed as a sister club to City? It was plainly obvious to me. Everybody knew this from the start, they also knew what colours would be worn by the team.
I'm actually really disappointed with the reaction of these 'so-called' NYCFC supporters, complaining that Frank won't be joining them for the start of their season. Are you really so short-sighted to not see that our clubs will be helping each other, working together in the future, and will be very closely linked? Well, I'm so sorry that 'your' player might miss the first 2 months of your season because he has decided to help your sister club try to win a championship, and you really want to deny him that glory? If that's how much you care about your future players, then I'm afraid you've lost my good will.
If he does stay at City til the end of the English season, and then joins NYCFC, then you 'supporters' should be happy to receive a (hopefully) championship winner, in peak match fitness, ready to blast his way through the MLS. Alternatively, he could join you now and lose his match sharpness in the next couple of months, meaning he has to start all over again.
You're helping us by letting us have him til the end of our season - we're helping you by keeping him in peak condition for yours.
If you don't like this sister club arrangement, then go and 'support' Red Bull or the Cosmos, because the CFG doesn't want you.
Peoria Blue
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Innsbruckblue said:You're helping us by letting us have him til the end of our season - we're helping you by keeping him in peak condition for yours.
If you don't like this sister club arrangement, then go and 'support' Red Bull or the Cosmos, because the CFG doesn't want you.
Right. Unless he gets hurt playing for MCFC, I don't see how its a bad thing for NYCFC. Especially since he's probably only a 1-2 year guy anyway as the NY club gets settled.
Centurions
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They're not "letting us have him" though, they don't own his registration so fuck 'em.Peoria Blue said:Innsbruckblue said:You're helping us by letting us have him til the end of our season - we're helping you by keeping him in peak condition for yours.
If you don't like this sister club arrangement, then go and 'support' Red Bull or the Cosmos, because the CFG doesn't want you.
Right. Unless he gets hurt playing for MCFC, I don't see how its a bad thing for NYCFC. Especially since he's probably only a 1-2 year guy anyway as the NY club gets settled.
Bluemoonie92
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I think its hilarious reading their forum, dont know who the fuck they think they are. Sayin what do they get out of this partnership? You get a fucking football club! Half of them probably dont even know what lampard looks like anyway
Sigh
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And the other half used to call themselves red bull fans.Bluemoonie92 said:I think its hilarious reading their forum, dont know who the @#!*% they think they are. Sayin what do they get out of this partnership? You get a @#!*% football club! Half of them probably dont even know what lampard looks like anyway
If you don't understand why NYCFC fans would be upset by this then it is you who doesnt really understand the implications of this move. It is not nearly as much about having Lampard for half a season as it is the precedent that the move sets. The MLS is a growing league and this decision hurts that growth and treats the club not as a sister club but a farm system. I hope that these two clubs can have a more mutually helpful and harmonious relationship. It is not fair to disrespect and write off NYCFC fans for being upset. This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
Bill
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nycfc1994 said:If you don't understand why NYCFC fans would be upset by this then it is you who doesnt really understand the implications of this move. It is not nearly as much about having Lampard for half a season as it is the precedent that the move sets. The MLS is a growing league and this decision hurts that growth and treats the club not as a sister club but a farm system. I hope that these two clubs can have a more mutually helpful and harmonious relationship. It is not fair to disrespect and write off NYCFC fans for being upset. This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
totally agree.
dave_blue12
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de niro said:nycfc1994 said:If you don't understand why NYCFC fans would be upset by this then it is you who doesnt really understand the implications of this move. It is not nearly as much about having Lampard for half a season as it is the precedent that the move sets. The MLS is a growing league and this decision hurts that growth and treats the club not as a sister club but a farm system. I hope that these two clubs can have a more mutually helpful and harmonious relationship. It is not fair to disrespect and write off NYCFC fans for being upset. This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
totally agree.
Don't disagree but who cares ?
I only care about MCFC. Upsetting the fans of another club ? I couldn't give a shit !
If Frank helps us secure a consecutive PL title happy days !
oakiecokie
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nycfc1994 said:If you don't understand why NYCFC fans would be upset by this then it is you who doesnt really understand the implications of this move. It is not nearly as much about having Lampard for half a season as it is the precedent that the move sets. The MLS is a growing league and this decision hurts that growth and treats the club not as a sister club but a farm system. I hope that these two clubs can have a more mutually helpful and harmonious relationship. It is not fair to disrespect and write off NYCFC fans for being upset. This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
It appears that the two Clubs do have a mutual relationship as both parties agreed to Lampards additional contract at Manchester according to reports.For all we know, you could be getting Gerrard !
citytilllidie
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Lampard will have made the decision. Both clubs want him. NY obviously would have agreed to the extended loan, on the back of discussions with all parties. The only problem is spiteful media causing the storm. When he gets there and starts banging goals in, they will forget all of this and love him.
I'd imagine that Reyna and Kreiss are at pains to stress to Lampard and City that the delay in Lampard's arrival is no problem. Not because they are afraid to piss off their masters at City (cos I'm sure they are comfortable of their stature in the CFG family) but because they are afraid that Lampard will not go at all and they are seen as a drama-queen club that European players would be best to avoid.
In the long term they need to attract top players and that involves bowing to their desires - sometimes that'll involve taking a "pinch". It seems to be a ADUG trait actually that they'll suffer short term pain for long term gain.
NYCFC fans need to accept the operating model though.
In the long term they need to attract top players and that involves bowing to their desires - sometimes that'll involve taking a "pinch". It seems to be a ADUG trait actually that they'll suffer short term pain for long term gain.
NYCFC fans need to accept the operating model though.
rodders1973
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Lanyard to stay with us and we'll sign Gerrard for NYCFC, all problems solved.
PragueBlue
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nycfc1994 said:If you don't understand why NYCFC fans would be upset by this then it is you who doesnt really understand the implications of this move. It is not nearly as much about having Lampard for half a season as it is the precedent that the move sets. The MLS is a growing league and this decision hurts that growth and treats the club not as a sister club but a farm system. I hope that these two clubs can have a more mutually helpful and harmonious relationship. It is not fair to disrespect and write off NYCFC fans for being upset. This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
It certainly hasn't been handled in the best way and has caused some short-term bad feeling. Long-term though I feel NYCFC will gain more out of the relationship than MCFC will. In due course I should imagine you'll be getting some of our quality younger players on loan and perhaps even some of our big name players when they are coming towards the end of their careers in Europe (Toure etc).
nycfc1994 said:This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
What fans? You haven't even got a fucking team to support, so what exactly are you fans of...
Not sure why people are so hung up on the team"they don't have any fans" argument.
Do we expect the 12k+ season ticket holders, countless people that have bought merchandise and have spent hours talking about NYCFC to just sit down and not have an opinion until March 8?
Of course they shouldn't. And as yet CFG havent earned their trust for them to accept any decision they make with a shrug of the shoulders knowing that CFG will make things right.
That may well happen in time, but until then I don't blame any of them for being unhappy.
And anyone that thinks we would be any different if roles were reversed is kidding themselves.
Do we expect the 12k+ season ticket holders, countless people that have bought merchandise and have spent hours talking about NYCFC to just sit down and not have an opinion until March 8?
Of course they shouldn't. And as yet CFG havent earned their trust for them to accept any decision they make with a shrug of the shoulders knowing that CFG will make things right.
That may well happen in time, but until then I don't blame any of them for being unhappy.
And anyone that thinks we would be any different if roles were reversed is kidding themselves.
Bilboblue
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Any links to the whingers fans forum(s)? PM me please.
Whilst I understand partly their frustration, they have to remember they wouldn't even exist were it not for S.Mansour
What's that old saying about biting the hand that feeds you?
Oh, and by the way, you are not a sister club just yet, we are your parent club, and we ARE more important than you in the grand scheme of things, as 137 years of existence should show you.
I wish NYCFC the very best of luck but please, stop your fucking moaning.
Whilst I understand partly their frustration, they have to remember they wouldn't even exist were it not for S.Mansour
What's that old saying about biting the hand that feeds you?
Oh, and by the way, you are not a sister club just yet, we are your parent club, and we ARE more important than you in the grand scheme of things, as 137 years of existence should show you.
I wish NYCFC the very best of luck but please, stop your fucking moaning.
squirtyflower
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The invisible manTanzeylee said:nycfc1994 said:This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
What fans? You haven't even got a fucking team to support, so what exactly are you fans of...
bluethrunthru
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of course this will mean Maureen will get Chelski fans and the media to swallow the line that its unfair and City snatched Frank away from them and that he wouldn't have allowed him to leave had he known where he would end up etc etc
Bottom line is Maureen didn't want Frank anymore - this is the 2014/15 season and so clubs don't hold on to a players registration for ever and prevent them from earning a living elsewhere and all this shows is a flaw in Maureens ability to spot a player as it were and that he is a mard arsed whinger in charge of a squad of diving cheats so us to win last day of the season - Frank gets the winner meanwhile Stevie G snubs him again by denying Chelski 3 points when they next meet the dippers will be utter karma and make my season !!
Bottom line is Maureen didn't want Frank anymore - this is the 2014/15 season and so clubs don't hold on to a players registration for ever and prevent them from earning a living elsewhere and all this shows is a flaw in Maureens ability to spot a player as it were and that he is a mard arsed whinger in charge of a squad of diving cheats so us to win last day of the season - Frank gets the winner meanwhile Stevie G snubs him again by denying Chelski 3 points when they next meet the dippers will be utter karma and make my season !!
Bill
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Tanzeylee said:nycfc1994 said:This move was a slight to all NYCFC fans and every one of them has the right to be upset.
What fans? You haven't even got a fucking team to support, so what exactly are you fans of...
everyone has to start somewhere.
I too am only bothered about city but we still have to look at the other point of view.