Lampard To City On Loan

[MeatHunterrr]

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.

We haven't signed him though have we,our New York club has done that,he is coming here to keep his fitness levels up and maybe get the odd game time in for 6 months.Rodwell is always injured and aside from two games when he has played he hasn't looked that great,possibly due to always being injured.I feel he will be moved on soon anyway.Nastasic stalled after a promising start and the jury is out if he will make it.The fact we are trying to sign a new centre half is probably a good indicator.

Football is all about opinions and i am happy to have him around for 6 months.

Course you are entitles to your opinion, that is exactly the purpose of the forum. In relation to Nastasic he was part of the best defence in the country in his first season, had a dip in form in the early part of this season, like others around him, suffered an injury and now we are replacing him with a 32 million pound player.

Mangala is replacing Lescott. Remember we have 3 CBs. Rekik probably will go to PSV on loan.

 

[franksinatra]

We haven't signed him though have we,our New York club has done that,he is coming here to keep his fitness levels up and maybe get the odd game time in for 6 months.Rodwell is always injured and aside from two games when he has played he hasn't looked that great,possibly due to always being injured.I feel he will be moved on soon anyway.Nastasic stalled after a promising start and the jury is out if he will make it.The fact we are trying to sign a new centre half is probably a good indicator.

Football is all about opinions and i am happy to have him around for 6 months.

Course you are entitles to your opinion, that is exactly the purpose of the forum. In relation to Nastasic he was part of the best defence in the country in his first season, had a dip in form in the early part of this season, like others around him, suffered an injury and now we are replacing him with a 32 million pound player.

Mangala is replacing Lescott. Remember we have 3 CBs. Rekik probably will go to PSV on loan.

Mangala is not replacing lescott who was fourth choice last year. Mangala will go straight in as a partner for Kompany and we will only see Nastasic in the event of injury to Mangala, Kompany or De Michaelis. His progress has been completely blocked.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.

Zuculini needs game time week in week out. At City he won't get that. Thats why needs to out on loan. And he is 21 not 20.

Well if he is 21 and cannot get a game. That is a case in point why City is not the place for youngsters an issue further exacerbated by the signing of Lampard.

you obviously don't understand the nuances. Zuculini has come straight from Argentina, and whilst promising in pre-season needs to gain a level of European experience with regular football, so that he learns the mental attributes required to play at a higher level so that he has a more mature and experienced understanding of how to use his talent at a much higher level. It gives him a middle step in his development which is really useful as otherwise he will be part of our squad, but not play regularly, and thus be asked to make huge leaps each time he played for us, and thus run the risk of Savic or Rodwell-esque errors that would then get fans on his back and start to be detrimental to him.

In terms of Lampard, he may only play a handful of times when we need him, but by him signing a contract with us we get to put him as HG player on squad lists, filling a spot and because we can't add another foreigner in that role, and don't have the money through FFPR to buy a Barkley this summer, Lampard is the most value for money transfer we can have, still has the ability and has bags of experience, he's free and therefore adds what we need, HG squad depth.

Huws is nowhere near ready to play for us, and it's alright saying "play them in the Carling Cup" but what if we got knocked out in Round 3? They may only play 1 or 2 games and spend the rest of the time in the EDS, because rest assured the fans would moan a) if they had to come in in a big game and risk making a mistake and b) by the time we get to Round 5 the fans will want us to play our strongest team to ensure we progress and try and win the trophy, so by November the psychology of having Zuculini or Huws in the squad will have changed completely, and so the management are right to not put them in the squad till they believe they are ready to cope with being called in to play regularly. At the moment neither are ready.

 

[paulchapo]

If yaya is off in jan for 6 weeks and fern is injured we will grateful we have him

Good point Karen i had forgotten about the dreaded ACON and Ya Ya is already enthusing about their new boss, so i think he will not retire from international football as hinted but go to the tournament.

 

[cleavers]

you obviously don't understand the nuances. Zuculini has come straight from Argentina, and whilst promising in pre-season needs to gain a level of European experience with regular football, so that he learns the mental attributes required to play at a higher level so that he has a more mature and experienced understanding of how to use his talent at a much higher level. It gives him a middle step in his development which is really useful as otherwise he will be part of our squad, but not play regularly, and thus be asked to make huge leaps each time he played for us, and thus run the risk of Savic or Rodwell-esque errors that would then get fans on his back and start to be detrimental to him.

In terms of Lampard, he may only play a handful of times when we need him, but by him signing a contract with us we get to put him as HG player on squad lists, filling a spot and because we can't add another foreigner in that role, and don't have the money through FFPR to buy a Barkley this summer, Lampard is the most value for money transfer we can have, still has the ability and has bags of experience, he's free and therefore adds what we need, HG squad depth.

Huws is nowhere near ready to play for us, and it's alright saying "play them in the Carling Cup" but what if we got knocked out in Round 3? They may only play 1 or 2 games and spend the rest of the time in the EDS, because rest assured the fans would moan a) if they had to come in in a big game and risk making a mistake and b) by the time we get to Round 5 the fans will want us to play our strongest team to ensure we progress and try and win the trophy, so by November the psychology of having Zuculini or Huws in the squad will have changed completely, and so the management are right to not put them in the squad till they believe they are ready to cope with being called in to play regularly. At the moment neither are ready.

You don't want to be posting sense and logic around here JMW, give the kids a chance.........at least until they cost us a cup tie or three points, then its time for a new manager.

 

[citygirl77]

I think he is only here to keep his fitness levels up before MLS starts in March 15, but if like already stated we can use him if Yaya or for injuries, can,t see him being used that much in PL and especially against Chelsea or West Ham.

 

[kaz7]

If yaya is off in jan for 6 weeks and fern is injured we will grateful we have him

Good point Karen i had forgotten about the dreaded ACON and Ya Ya is already enthusing about their new boss, so i think he will not retire from international football as hinted but go to the tournament.

I don't believe a word he says these days so hard to know if he is going to go or not but with everyone knackered about then having someone like lampard could be a godsend.From memory jan is quite a hard month fixture wise

 

[coleridge]

You don't want to be posting sense and logic around here JMW, give the kids a chance.........at least until they cost us a cup tie or three points, then its time for a new manager.

I'd still play the kids in the Cups and focus on the league and CL. I was thinking of Lampard in the latter two competitions.

Of course, the ever strengthening of the squad may prove me wrong. Either way, I am very positive about everything the club is doing. It certainly beats sat in my cold seat on the Kippax watching Wycome at home and wondering 'WTF are we doing here?'.

 

[sir baconface]

Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

By all earlier accounts, Zuculini was earmarked for a European loan well before the Lampard news.

For me it's a great piece of opportunism on the part of the club. He's become available on an internal loan so why not take advantage? A decent guy and a top pro with huge experience.

We'll be grateful in the event of availability problems in midfield through injury, suspension, ACON or loss of form.

 

[cibaman]

He needs to keep his fitness levels up before the MSL starts

If he's going to train at any club it would be odd if it weren't City given the relationship with NYFC.

If he's training with us he might as well be available for selection if needed.