Lampard To City On Loan

sir baconface said:
franksinatra said:
Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

By all earlier accounts, Zuculini was earmarked for a European loan well before the Lampard news.

For me it's a great piece of opportunism on the part of the club. He's become available on an internal loan so why not take advantage? A decent guy and a top pro with huge experience.

We'll be grateful in the event of availability problems in midfield through injury, suspension, ACON or loss of form.

Personally I think it is a shame. I am not sure just stockpiling players to cover every eventuality is the correct way forward. We have enough back up players already and if we do get some spare capacity to use younger players, the fact that Lampard is here will block this.

It seems a long time since a kid came through at City, probably Danny Sturridge and he has made his name elsewhere. It may be a fair argument the kids are not good enough in comparison to other sides, but our record in comparison to others is appalling. I am not sure how the signing of Lampard would encourage any promising young player to sign for City nor watching the likes of Rodwell, Milner, Nastasic pushed further back in the pecking order by new signings.
 
personally this couldn't be any more perfect. I couldn't care less if he impedes the progress of Zuculini, or if lamps ever even sees the field.

I just cant wait to talk to a friend who swears Frank Lampard is a god amongst men, and Chelsea are "the chosen team", while City are a bunch of mercenaries. Might even buy him the Lampard City kit for laughs.

Can anyone with photoshopping skills make a quick Lampard sky blue City kit for me to post on his facebook wall? It'd be much appreciated. I doubt Nasri will give up the #8 but for the sake of this could u just replace NASRI with LAMPARD. I tried but it looked like shit. You can use this image if u like....

[bigimg]http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/hero600/66267_NASRI.RE01.jpg[/bigimg]
 
NanaToure42 said:
personally this couldn't be any more perfect. I couldn't care less if he impedes the progress of Zuculini, or if lamps ever even sees the field.

I just cant wait to talk to a friend who swears Frank Lampard is a god amongst men, and Chelsea are "the chosen team", while City are a bunch of mercenaries. Might even buy him the Lampard City kit for laughs.

Can anyone with photoshopping skills make a quick Lampard sky blue City kit for me to post on his facebook wall? It'd be much appreciated. I doubt Nasri will give up the #8 but for the sake of this could u just replace NASRI with LAMPARD. I tried but it looked like shit. You can use this image if u like....

[bigimg]http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/hero600/66267_NASRI.RE01.jpg[/bigimg]


He'd better not give up the number 8 shirt. I've just spent a small fortune buying my lad the new away kit with Nasri 8 on the back!!
 
chaddblue said:
NanaToure42 said:
personally this couldn't be any more perfect. I couldn't care less if he impedes the progress of Zuculini, or if lamps ever even sees the field.

I just cant wait to talk to a friend who swears Frank Lampard is a god amongst men, and Chelsea are "the chosen team", while City are a bunch of mercenaries. Might even buy him the Lampard City kit for laughs.

Can anyone with photoshopping skills make a quick Lampard sky blue City kit for me to post on his facebook wall? It'd be much appreciated. I doubt Nasri will give up the #8 but for the sake of this could u just replace NASRI with LAMPARD. I tried but it looked like shit. You can use this image if u like....

[bigimg]http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/hero600/66267_NASRI.RE01.jpg[/bigimg]


He'd better not give up the number 8 shirt. I've just spent a small fortune buying my lad the new away kit with Nasri 8 on the back!!

Highly doubt he will. Don't worry. They haven't announced what number he will wear have they? My guess would be #18.

On a side note, I know in American sports new players to a team have often bought their number from the player who is currently wearing it. Does that type of thing go on in English/European football? Here's an interesting article on the topic....

<a class="postlink" href="http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/06/top-5-stories-of-players-selling-their-jersey-numbers-2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/06/ ... numbers-2/</a>
 
cleavers said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
you obviously don't understand the nuances. Zuculini has come straight from Argentina, and whilst promising in pre-season needs to gain a level of European experience with regular football, so that he learns the mental attributes required to play at a higher level so that he has a more mature and experienced understanding of how to use his talent at a much higher level. It gives him a middle step in his development which is really useful as otherwise he will be part of our squad, but not play regularly, and thus be asked to make huge leaps each time he played for us, and thus run the risk of Savic or Rodwell-esque errors that would then get fans on his back and start to be detrimental to him.

In terms of Lampard, he may only play a handful of times when we need him, but by him signing a contract with us we get to put him as HG player on squad lists, filling a spot and because we can't add another foreigner in that role, and don't have the money through FFPR to buy a Barkley this summer, Lampard is the most value for money transfer we can have, still has the ability and has bags of experience, he's free and therefore adds what we need, HG squad depth.

Huws is nowhere near ready to play for us, and it's alright saying "play them in the Carling Cup" but what if we got knocked out in Round 3? They may only play 1 or 2 games and spend the rest of the time in the EDS, because rest assured the fans would moan a) if they had to come in in a big game and risk making a mistake and b) by the time we get to Round 5 the fans will want us to play our strongest team to ensure we progress and try and win the trophy, so by November the psychology of having Zuculini or Huws in the squad will have changed completely, and so the management are right to not put them in the squad till they believe they are ready to cope with being called in to play regularly. At the moment neither are ready.
You don't want to be posting sense and logic around here JMW, give the kids a chance.........at least until they cost us a cup tie or three points, then its time for a new manager.

I am not so sure that Zuc is not ready to play for us. However, he is not likely to play with anything like the regularity that he would by going out on loan. But, if he goes on loan, he does not begin to build an understanding with his City team mates or get to learn from them. Zuc could learn a lot from observing - Lampard if he joins the squad - at close quarters. I think it is a really close call as to whether Zuc should go on loan; regardless of what Lampard does.

I favour keeping Zuc at the club. That said, a loan until January might be a good compromise.

Huws does not look ready for the top flight yet.
 
OB1 said:
I favour keeping Zuc at the club. That said, a loan until January might be a good compromise.
So do I OB1, but we have to actually sign him officially first (unless I've missed something), same as the Nigerian kid, who I'd also like to keep (sign officially first) with the first team, because they both have lots to learn, and they would learn it just as well with our best players players, than with a relegation threatened, championship hopeful, or second rate La Liga side, and lets face it neither are going to get a top spanish side right now.
 
franksinatra said:
sir baconface said:
franksinatra said:
Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

By all earlier accounts, Zuculini was earmarked for a European loan well before the Lampard news.

For me it's a great piece of opportunism on the part of the club. He's become available on an internal loan so why not take advantage? A decent guy and a top pro with huge experience.

We'll be grateful in the event of availability problems in midfield through injury, suspension, ACON or loss of form.

Personally I think it is a shame. I am not sure just stockpiling players to cover every eventuality is the correct way forward. We have enough back up players already and if we do get some spare capacity to use younger players, the fact that Lampard is here will block this.

It seems a long time since a kid came through at City, probably Danny Sturridge and he has made his name elsewhere. It may be a fair argument the kids are not good enough in comparison to other sides, but our record in comparison to others is appalling. I am not sure how the signing of Lampard would encourage any promising young player to sign for City nor watching the likes of Rodwell, Milner, Nastasic pushed further back in the pecking order by new signings.

I have some sympathy for your views. The stakes are so high these days that rich clubs are reluctant to gamble on younger players when ready-mades are available.

City's recent record on bringing through academy players has been disappointing. Ditto our ability to scout unknown players with big potential. We usually buy proven players, and often discard them too, which is why we acquired the sugar daddy tag.

I really hope the improved set-up will produce kids whose claims can't possibly be ignored.

It's in the short term, and in the above context, that I see Lampard as a smart move.
 
Seems to me that Lampard is here to train and fill home grown quota and nothing else. I have a feeling we
will see very little of Frank in any games, if at all.
 

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