Lampard To City On Loan

paulchapo said:
franksinatra said:
Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.
 
franksinatra said:
paulchapo said:
franksinatra said:
Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.
Zuculini needs game time week in week out. At City he won't get that. Thats why needs to out on loan. And he is 21 not 20.
 
I don't think he'll play at all, honestly. Unless we get hit with an injury plague, considering when the MLS season starts, he probably just doesn't want 10 months away from organised training. Having him train daily with the first team doesn't do anyone harm.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
franksinatra said:
paulchapo said:
I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.
Zuculini needs game time week in week out. At City he won't get that. Thats why needs to out on loan. And he is 21 not 20.
Me personally i dont think 21 yr olds should be loan'd out but fightin for a place in the team at that age a player should be makin his mark on the team sheet
 
franksinatra said:
paulchapo said:
franksinatra said:
Just having read the last couple of posts the reasons for signing him have become even more nonsenscial.

He will play in the early rounds of the Cup: Why would we want him too? Why should he block the opportunity for a Huws or a Zucculini? Is this really justification for paying his wages and blocking a place in the squad of a talented youngster?

He is an influence in the dressing room/role model for the youngsters: On the basis of what? Why don't Chelsea keep him as a role model then? Do City not have enough good role models such as Zaba, Kompany, Silva, Aguero etc. Ridiculous assertion to suggest we would pay him to act as a role model.

For me it is a poor move and gives more justification to the argument that City do not give opportunities to youngsters. Furthermore it is a slap in the face to the likes of Milner and Rodwell and will probably hasten their departures from the club.

I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.

We haven't signed him though have we,our New York club has done that,he is coming here to keep his fitness levels up and maybe get the odd game time in for 6 months.Rodwell is always injured and aside from two games when he has played he hasn't looked that great,possibly due to always being injured.I feel he will be moved on soon anyway.Nastasic stalled after a promising start and the jury is out if he will make it.The fact we are trying to sign a new centre half is probably a good indicator.

Football is all about opinions and i am happy to have him around for 6 months.
 
I don't think he will play much, if at all. I think this is all about him having an opportunity to train with Man City in order to get and remain fit for the first NYCFC season in MLS which goes from March to October 2015. I think Lampard is a good addition in case someone gets injured or is unavailable to play.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
franksinatra said:
paulchapo said:
I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.
Zuculini needs game time week in week out. At City he won't get that. Thats why needs to out on loan. And he is 21 not 20.

Well if he is 21 and cannot get a game. That is a case in point why City is not the place for youngsters an issue further exacerbated by the signing of Lampard.
 
Good move by the club. Good for our HG quota, nice backup to have, experienced player to bring in when we have many injured players or need that dose of influence like viera had
 
paulchapo said:
franksinatra said:
paulchapo said:
I didn't say he was signed/loaned specifically to be an influence or a role model but his stature,standing and the respect he has in the game makes him that and it can't be a bad thing.

On his day,even at 36 he is still a world class player,it is just those days are few and far between now.Rodwell is nowhere near our squad never mind the team and Millner will always be a bit part player,Lampard popping over here for 6 months to keep fit and get the odd run out isn't going to alter that.

Rodwell is near the squad but like Nastasic we are happy to write him off. Similarly with Milner. It is a really depressing signing and I do not know if support for this signing is due to an inherent City bias because if he signed for United we would all be laughing at signing a washed up player and questioning what happened to Uniteds policy of promoting kids?

Also why should Zucculini need to go on loan as is widely reported? . He is 20, he is the future we should be giving him opportunity to establish himself in the squad rather than make space for Lampard.

We haven't signed him though have we,our New York club has done that,he is coming here to keep his fitness levels up and maybe get the odd game time in for 6 months.Rodwell is always injured and aside from two games when he has played he hasn't looked that great,possibly due to always being injured.I feel he will be moved on soon anyway.Nastasic stalled after a promising start and the jury is out if he will make it.The fact we are trying to sign a new centre half is probably a good indicator.

Football is all about opinions and i am happy to have him around for 6 months.

Course you are entitles to your opinion, that is exactly the purpose of the forum. In relation to Nastasic he was part of the best defence in the country in his first season, had a dip in form in the early part of this season, like others around him, suffered an injury and now we are replacing him with a 32 million pound player.

That for me is the point, like the Lampard signing it is another example of not giving a young player a chance. As another poster above stated, in relation to Zucculini, at 21 he should be making his mark at this club not going out on loan. Signing players like Lampard block his progress. We have watched the development of Barclay at Everton when he has been given game time, Sterling at Liverpool. When will young players get this opportunity to develop at City?
 

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