Leadership

More significant was the ref's decision not to give a penalty on Zin. I don't think it was a pen but seen those given and then suddenly we were 3-1 up. It's those moments going our way in a football match that were more important.

And Mane gets sent off yesterday then what? Zinchenko's was at worst a 50/50 call - we're so used to getting shafted that when one of those falls our way, we treat it like a massive dose of largesse. Sterling's more blatant penalty in the 2H of course has been air-brushed into history.
 
And Mane gets sent off yesterday then what? Zinchenko's was at worst a 50/50 call - we're so used to getting shafted that when one of those falls our way, we treat it like a massive dose of largesse. Sterling's more blatant penalty in the 2H of course has been air-brushed into history.
My point was that the game could have turned the other way on those incidents and in the Palace and Leicester games that's exactly what happened. Wonder goals smashed in from sides that were hanging on and the game changed.

I can understand the media saying that City have been bottling it, but I don't like it when our fans repeat this.

I liked Pep's pre-match press conference when he stood by his players and described them as heroes.
 
He’s not far behind imo.

Emits a definite calm patriarchal vibe.

Yes,i agree,his presence is definitely calming,i've just never seen him hitting the natural heights of leadership the other two possess.

I think Delph,Stones,Laporte and Walker have it though.
 
Love Vinny and the leadership he brings but a couple of uncertain moments today. 50:50 between him and Stones vs Scousers.

Knowing Pep it'll be neither and Otamendi will start :-)
 
Yes,i agree,his presence is definitely calming,i've just never seen him hitting the natural heights of leadership the other two possess.

I think Delph,Stones,Laporte and Walker have it though.

Agreed to the others you mention mate.

With Dave, I think he’s more of a “I’m here it’s sweet” kind rather than a alpha male type like Vinny or Walker. Like a father shepherding his young sons to safety as they cross a busy road. That vibe.

Gotta love Dave. Going to be genuinely irreplaceable.
 
Agreed to the others you mention mate.

With Dave, I think he’s more of a “I’m here it’s sweet” kind rather than a alpha male type like Vinny or Walker. Like a father shepherding his young sons to safety as they cross a busy road. That vibe.

Gotta love Dave. Going to be genuinely irreplaceable.
Leads by example, mate. There's many forms and Silva's is one that pushes them around him to give more, be better, and be part of a system that he is pivotal to.
 
Pep is the leader. He needs to get the footage of the bus attack on his screen, sit them down and say “remember this lads? Do you want these ****s winning the title? No.......then make sure you get out there and give every last ounce of energy you have. Leave nothing behind. He then picks Kompany to make sure it happens.
 
Kompany
Fernandinho
David Silva

All made a huge difference today

Kompany leads by example, Fernandinho will argue with opposition players and organise everyone positionally as well as reading the game and creating attacking opportunities for us, David Silva will organise the possession and move people into spaces he wants them to be in through his passing and he will also moan like fuck at the ref all game like nobody else does in the team.

All three like getting stuck in n’all.
 
Leadership is a strange notion. If you ask people for example’s they come up with a wide range of examples - Hitler, Thatcher, Mao - God help us. You also get a lot of self appointed leaders - John Terry or Roy Keane - just bullies who are ultimately devisive but think they are leaders - the press love a tub thumper - look at Hart’s idiotic behaviour with England (that’s not leadership). Real leaders are people like Fern and David Silva. Team players, loyal, give to the cause, set an example, decent people. We are lucky to have a few low profile leaders in our squad.
 
Not many teams really have leaders now as there are too many ego's in the dressing room. Players don't like being told what to do by their team mates.
 
Leadership?! None on the pitch tonight and none off it either. Slumped in his seat all night, Pep’s body language sucked arse. That’s 4 league defeats in our last 9, and each and everyone of them you could see coming a mile off. Sloppy, complacent passing, attacking at walking pace, and titting around making suicidal decisions in our own box. That was the 4th utterly needless penalty we’ve conceded in the last 3 months. Laporte apart, that was abject tonight, and we’ve got 8 games coming up in February. Some serious bollockings need to be handed out
 
Pep looked like Pellegrini tonight.

Defeatist demeanour about him, very very poor to see.
 
It annoys me that the leadership of the club fail to address what needs addressing every Summer after we win the league.
Yes being tight bastards as if to prove some sort of point. We wont pay over the odds. Yeah lets do that and watch the other top clubs pay up and we get left behind. Cant blame pep for being pissed. I said it ages ago that txiki is a clown
 

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