"Lee Mason. Oh Dear"

[Chippy_boy]

I don't remember many howling bad decisions when we were shite. Everyone took pity on us and liked us and gave us a fair judgement on the pitch. Now they pretty much all hate us and it is reflected in the decisions.

You probably don't remember it ever raining in the summer holidays either.

True.

But it didn't.

 

[BlueTony]

Simple question, if you were as shit at your job as the ref is would you expect to keep it?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

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Yeah, why can't they? I assume you've missed all the police investigations, high-profile resignations, parliamentary enquiries, court cases, criminal convictions, entire newspapers being shut down, and massive compensation payouts around this very matter over the last few years. It's been fairly big news.
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It's the fundamental point that all the conspiracy people miss. We have the most vigorous press in the world. News that referees were bent would be one of the biggest news stories of the decade, if not the century. Can you imagine? It would bring the game to it's knees.

One referee, past or present, could expose this and make himself millions. Just one. One retired ref earning a pension of £150 per week. He wouldn't even need to give his name.

It doesn't happen because whilst referees are routinely rubbish, and influenced by external factors doing a game, they are not intentionally corrupt. They are paid professionals now. They are doing a job they have dedicated their lives to obtaining. You think they'd give up their nice, high profile career, risk killing football forever, be demonsied by every press outlet forever and become the target of death threats for the rest of their lives? Just because they "don't like City"?

It's deluded to even think we are that important.

Bit naive this Dave. If a person chooses a career in refereeing then you can bet your life that they have an interest in football and grew up liking/disliking particular teams. I'd be amazed if some of our Premiership referees didn't grow up supporting United, and I can understand the temptation for them to conceal this fact, maybe not for the purposes of cheating per se, but because they don't want to preclude themselves from refereeing the high profile games. The question is, are they able to ignore past allegiances and referee games impartially, or are they tempted to 'tweak' their decisions to favour United and penalise their title rivals? If you're correct and the answer is the former, then I applaud their self control and professionalism, but if the answer is the latter then I fail to see how you could possibly prove it? They're hardly likely to shout about it are they?

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[Chippy_boy]

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It's the fundamental point that all the conspiracy people miss. We have the most vigorous press in the world. News that referees were bent would be one of the biggest news stories of the decade, if not the century. Can you imagine? It would bring the game to it's knees.

One referee, past or present, could expose this and make himself millions. Just one. One retired ref earning a pension of £150 per week. He wouldn't even need to give his name.

It doesn't happen because whilst referees are routinely rubbish, and influenced by external factors doing a game, they are not intentionally corrupt. They are paid professionals now. They are doing a job they have dedicated their lives to obtaining. You think they'd give up their nice, high profile career, risk killing football forever, be demonsied by every press outlet forever and become the target of death threats for the rest of their lives? Just because they "don't like City"?

It's deluded to even think we are that important.

Bit naive this Dave. If a person chooses a career in refereeing then you can bet your life that they have an interest in football and grew up liking/disliking particular teams. I'd be amazed if some of our Premiership referees didn't grow up supporting United, and I can understand the temptation for them to conceal this fact, maybe not for the purposes of cheating per se, but because they don't want to preclude themselves from refereeing the high profile games. The question is, are they able to ignore past allegiances and referee games impartially, or are they tempted to 'tweak' their decisions to favour United and penalise their title rivals? If you're correct and the answer is the former, then I applaud their self control and professionalism, but if the answer is the latter then I fail to see how you could possibly prove it? They're hardly likely to shout about it are they?

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And if everything is as above board as Dave claims, how does he explain the ridiculous pro-united refereeing decisions that we see week-in, week-out at the swamp.

It's got so bad that everyone expects it and we hardly notice. The constant refereeing howlers go largely unreported. The only time we do notice is when - once in a blue moon - the game is actually straight at their place. Rarely happens I know. When it does SAF and his cronies complain vehemently. The playing field at their place is so ridiculously slanted they can't even see it. That idiot Shrek goes around kicking, stomping, swearing, abusing and "it's OK because it's Wayne". Utter utter filth the lot of them.

 

[Marvin]

The refs are being conned by diving Man Utd players, and Rooney, Ferdinand screaming at them to book players.

Refs would want to be seen to get the decision right. I don't believe any top flight refs deliberately set out to favour a team.

 

[samharris]

The refs are being conned by diving Man Utd players, and Rooney, Ferdinand screaming at them to book players.

Refs would want to be seen to get the decision right. I don't believe any top flight refs deliberately set out to favour a team.

Its a shame that their shite decisions lead fans to think excactly this.

 

[mikeyk07]

Valencia didn't do it at Wigan nor did Ashley young or any rag player for that matter who has come from a different club. They clearly know the refs are more lenient especially at old trashyard

 

[city diehard]

Lee Mason is bent as fcuk, a right old dirty filthy rag.

 

[kippaxking79]

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We will see Sunday! Like I said if the rags lose or draw will Mason "tweak" it in wolves favour?

Will be interesting to see if he does what Foy done against Norwich. Give everything to them until we cruise onto 2 nil. Only way he can "tweak" it in Wolves favour then would be to send 5 City players off.

 

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

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Bit naive this Dave. If a person chooses a career in refereeing then you can bet your life that they have an interest in football and grew up liking/disliking particular teams. I'd be amazed if some of our Premiership referees didn't grow up supporting United, and I can understand the temptation for them to conceal this fact, maybe not for the purposes of cheating per se, but because they don't want to preclude themselves from refereeing the high profile games. The question is, are they able to ignore past allegiances and referee games impartially, or are they tempted to 'tweak' their decisions to favour United and penalise their title rivals? If you're correct and the answer is the former, then I applaud their self control and professionalism, but if the answer is the latter then I fail to see how you could possibly prove it? They're hardly likely to shout about it are they?

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And if everything is as above board as Dave claims, how does he explain the ridiculous pro-united refereeing decisions that we see week-in, week-out at the swamp.

It's got so bad that everyone expects it and we hardly notice. The constant refereeing howlers go largely unreported. The only time we do notice is when - once in a blue moon - the game is actually straight at their place. Rarely happens I know. When it does SAF and his cronies complain vehemently. The playing field at their place is so ridiculously slanted they can't even see it. That idiot Shrek goes around kicking, stomping, swearing, abusing and "it's OK because it's Wayne". Utter utter filth the lot of them.

Sums it up perfectly....