"Lee Mason. Oh Dear"

[Ric]

Sorry to mess up the stats but Norwich away was Saturday and 12.45 K.O

Back to the drawing board :-)

All right then.

Our best three aways were all on Sky, were all lunchtime kickoffs, we conceeded one goal in each and were all sunny days. And I wasn't at any of them. And we scored both first and in injury time in all three. Aguero scored the second goal in them all, too.

How's that ;-)

Not good enough.

Balotelli got the second at Old Trafford.

 

[Chris in London]

Sorry to mess up the stats but Norwich away was Saturday and 12.45 K.O

Back to the drawing board :-)

All right then.

Our best three aways were all on Sky, were all lunchtime kickoffs, we conceeded one goal in each and were all sunny days. And I wasn't at any of them. And we scored both first and in injury time in all three. Aguero scored the second goal in them all, too.

How's that ;-)

Not good enough.

Balotelli got the second at Old Trafford.

And Dzeko got the second at Spurs. and the third.

Theory's exploding, Dave

;-)

 

[the blue panther]

Sorry to mess up the stats but Norwich away was Saturday and 12.45 K.O

Back to the drawing board :-)

All right then.

Our best three aways were all on Sky, were all lunchtime kickoffs, we conceeded one goal in each and were all sunny days. And I wasn't at any of them. And we scored both first and in injury time in all three. Aguero scored the second goal in them all, too.

How's that ;-)

Not good enough.

Balotelli got the second at Old Trafford.

Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition!

 

[KenTheLandlord]

The reason for this "statistical connection" is the same reason that all three of our best away performances and results have been on a Sunday, on a sunny day AND live on Sky. And we've conceeded one goal in each.

Exactly the same reason.

Sorry to mess up the stats but Norwich away was Saturday and 12.45 K.O

Back to the drawing board :-)

All right then.

Our best three aways were all on Sky, were all lunchtime kickoffs, we conceeded one goal in each and were all sunny days. And I wasn't at any of them. And we scored both first and in injury time in all three. Aguero scored the second goal in them all, too.

How's that ;-)[/quote]

That´s pattern recognition and most don´t have an influence on the match.

The goals do and would tip the game in either favour, however, the goals would need to satisfy the decision making of the ref.

All decisions made by a ref, influence matches, hence the decision making of Lee Mason is far more relevant than you turning up, if its on Sky, if its at lunchtime or whether its sunny.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:08 pm --<br /><br />

So what is your conclusion, then, Chris?

In relation to Mason, I don't have one. I don't think you can necessarily rule out a connection between the fact that in all of our games with Mason this year we have been shite and the fact that he is in charge. That is a long way from saying that the statistical evidence is a reflection of the man's inner hatred of all things sky blue. He has given soft penalties against us (and for the rags) but none in our favour. He gives us a lot more cards than our opponents. These things might be because there genuinely haven't been any alid penalty claims in our mason games, or that none of our opponents have committed any genuine yellow card offences. They may also be because he is either biased or incompetent or both.

So I think the statistics raise questions about Mason's impartiality and ability. But they do no more than raise questions. They prove nothing.

The question having been raised, however, I am apprehensive about Sunday. If I didn't want to end up as Gregos Traitorelli I might even have a fiver on us losing 1-0 to a dodgy penalty.

Walton is perhaps more interesting. I think it is substantially more likely than not that he had something against us whether he was conscious of it himself or otheriwse.

The stats in his case are of themselves pretty revealing, but they only tell part of the story. I think with Walton you had to see the games in the flesh to see the unfair way he handled things: all the times he gave soft fouls against us which he didn't give against Everton or Stoke; the yellow cards he showed us he never showed them. The advantage he played when it was the other side in possession and the times he refused to play advantage in our favour.

Bias isn't always about disallowing goals and giving soft penalties. Sometimes it is more subtle than that. I'm very glad he has gone over to the States, in short.

As for Mason? We will know more on Sunday evening.

Go one further Chris and predict Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero or Tevez will be sent off.

Check yellow card totals too. One can swing it against us.

We may win the match, but will not go into the United match unscathed.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

All right then.

Our best three aways were all on Sky, were all lunchtime kickoffs, we conceeded one goal in each and were all sunny days. And I wasn't at any of them. And we scored both first and in injury time in all three. Aguero scored the second goal in them all, too.

How's that ;-)

Not good enough.

Balotelli got the second at Old Trafford.

And Dzeko got the second at Spurs. and the third.

Theory's exploding, Dave

;-)

All three were against clubs we didn't beat away last year or the year before. In all three the first goal was scored to the left side of the camera vantage point. In all three the City fans were contained at the corner/side area rather than behind the goals. Adam Johnson was a sub in all three games.

Need more or do you give in?

;-)

 

[Ric]

Not good enough.

Balotelli got the second at Old Trafford.

And Dzeko got the second at Spurs. and the third.

Theory's exploding, Dave

;-)

All three were against clubs we didn't beat away last year or the year before. In all three the first goal was scored to the left side of the camera vantage point. In all three the City fans were contained at the corner/side area rather than behind the goals. Adam Johnson was a sub in all three games.

Need more or do you give in?

;-)

I feel like I'm being ridiculously pedantic now, but the first goal at Spurs was to scored to the right of the camera vantage point ;)

 

[KenTheLandlord]

And Dzeko got the second at Spurs. and the third.

Theory's exploding, Dave

;-)

All three were against clubs we didn't beat away last year or the year before. In all three the first goal was scored to the left side of the camera vantage point. In all three the City fans were contained at the corner/side area rather than behind the goals. Adam Johnson was a sub in all three games.

Need more or do you give in?

;-)

I feel like I'm being ridiculously pedantic now, but the first goal at Spurs was to scored to the right of the camera vantage point ;)

Be careful, he is a specialist in irrelevancies.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

And Dzeko got the second at Spurs. and the third.

Theory's exploding, Dave

;-)

All three were against clubs we didn't beat away last year or the year before. In all three the first goal was scored to the left side of the camera vantage point. In all three the City fans were contained at the corner/side area rather than behind the goals. Adam Johnson was a sub in all three games.

Need more or do you give in?

;-)

I feel like I'm being ridiculously pedantic now, but the first goal at Spurs was to scored to the right of the camera vantage point ;)

It was, wasn't it?

I give up. That's the house of cards down.

Mason's a United fan who dedicates his career to hurting City ;-)

 

[Chippy_boy]

Every club in the land thinks a particular referee hates them, usually due to one or two bad decisions.

As long as I can remember City fans have had a "demon" referee.

It's all fiction.

Nonsense. Personally I think half of them are as bent as fuck. Not normally a conspiracy theorist, nevertheless the weight of evidence of seemingly ridiculous bias is in my view conclusive.

But you know what? Even is this is nonsense, what is undeniable is that everyone has their favorites and those that they don't care for much. Maybe those they despise. Unless you are a City fan, it's probably pretty gaulling to see the investment in our club especially if your own pet club is struggling, or in the case of the rags, on the wane. It's only human nature that some of your feelings towards us will come out on the pitch in terms of your interpretation of marginal decisions. The same is true in every walk of life, with teachers and their favourite kids and those they can't stand. The more professional you are, the more you can rise above personal prejudices and be objective. But not everyone can nor does.

I don't remember many howling bad decisions when we were shite. Everyone took pity on us and liked us and gave us a fair judgement on the pitch. Now they pretty much all hate us and it is reflected in the decisions.

Having said all the above, some of the twats are on the take, I am convinced of it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I don't remember many howling bad decisions when we were shite. Everyone took pity on us and liked us and gave us a fair judgement on the pitch. Now they pretty much all hate us and it is reflected in the decisions.

You probably don't remember it ever raining in the summer holidays either.

We got loads of bad decisions back when we were shit. They usually mattered less and weren't dissected on SkySports every weekend.