Left-wing anarchist guilty of terror offences

I think the definition of anarchy to include non violence is all well and good. I'm just saying that it doesn't always pan out like that
i know.
you're right.
i wish we could all get on with each other peacefully.
i'm dreaming.

i see the young lads who call themselves anarchists throwing things at the police and powers that be.
it's difficult not to understand their anger,
but they aren't going to change the system with that sort of behaviour.

in my humble opinion
if you have to resort to violence then you have lost the argument.
ideologically i'm an anarchist.
realistically, i know it's never going to happen :)
 
i know.
you're right.
i wish we could all get on with each other peacefully.
i'm dreaming.

i see the young lads who call themselves anarchists throwing things at the police and powers that be.
it's difficult not to understand their anger,
but they aren't going to change the system with that sort of behaviour.

in my humble opinion
if you have to resort to violence then you have lost the argument.
ideologically i'm an anarchist.
realistically, i know it's never going to happen :)
Lots of truth there ;-)
 
Lots of truth there ;-)
forgive me.
i've just dug out an old pamphlet
"the anarchist basis of pacifism" by ronald sampson, 1960's.
it's lengthy and i doubt it's been transcribed online.
mine is covered in dust and the spine held together with yellowing sellotape and it ends thus...

"finally, anarchists seek fellowship,
not class war,
nor any other war;
but they will not yield to class domination either.

nor will they acquiesce any longer in the fraudulent shibboleths of parliamentary democracy,
which are fig leaves to conceal the realities of class rule based on violence.

the pacifist perceives correctly that the barriers against violence in men are so precarious
that nothing less than an absolute veto against the resort to violence and killing will serve as an adequate protection.

the weakness of pacifism is that it is hypothetical only,
until war actually breaks out,
when it has to grapple with inordinately powerful xenophobia and chauvinistic emotions,
if not hysteria.

the choice has never before been so starkly defined for humanity.
it is for us -
for all of us without distinction of person -
to choose.

the outcome will depend entirely on the efforts which every one of us makes.
we must have peace.
we shall have peace.
but a truly gargantuan struggle lies before us."








60 years later and fuck all has changed
 
forgive me.
i've just dug out an old pamphlet
"the anarchist basis of pacifism" by ronald sampson, 1960's.
it's lengthy and i doubt it's been transcribed online.
mine is covered in dust and the spine held together with yellowing sellotape and it ends thus...

"finally, anarchists seek fellowship,
not class war,
nor any other war;
but they will not yield to class domination either.

nor will they acquiesce any longer in the fraudulent shibboleths of parliamentary democracy,
which are fig leaves to conceal the realities of class rule based on violence.

the pacifist perceives correctly that the barriers against violence in men are so precarious
that nothing less than an absolute veto against the resort to violence and killing will serve as an adequate protection.

the weakness of pacifism is that it is hypothetical only,
until war actually breaks out,
when it has to grapple with inordinately powerful xenophobia and chauvinistic emotions,
if not hysteria.

the choice has never before been so starkly defined for humanity.
it is for us -
for all of us without distinction of person -
to choose.

the outcome will depend entirely on the efforts which every one of us makes.
we must have peace.
we shall have peace.
but a truly gargantuan struggle lies before us."








60 years later and fuck all has changed

Great words, and I can understand why we should adhere to it. It's just that I think that whilst we have had many great thinkers and pacifists over the years, unfortunately human nature tends to adopt stuff piecemeal and apply it to whatever ideology it wants.
We have a complex brain and a knack for fitting things into our objectives
 
unfortunately human nature tends to adopt stuff piecemeal and apply it to whatever ideology it wants.
let's be frank.
a considerable amount of humans are stupid.
the system purposely under-educates the masses.
they don't want people thinking about things.

if, as a child, you are not shown how to hold a reasoned argument,
then it's likely you will resort to violence.
if, as a child, you are badly educated,
you will, nowadays, stare into your phone rather than think about things.

as a species we are lost.
idiots like the one this thread is about are becoming the norm.
you and i can discuss it respectfully all evening,
but we all know who the real criminals are.
 
anyroad.
all i was meaning to say was...
he's no anarchist.
he is a tosser dressing himself up as one.
 
Pretty much this. Extremism is abhorrent in all guises (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) and needs eradicating. That's not the issue with the Anderson story. The issue is that he and Braverman stated, unequivocally, that Islamists have taken control of our country. This is an outrageous statement that can't be substantiated in any way. I've been to London on several occasions over the past few months, and have seen no evidence of this. Politicians are manipulative cunts; they know it can't be substantiated, but they chose to say it anyway. All it serves to do is stoke the fire of Islamophobia; like I said, it's easy bait for the dim witted in this country to associate radical Islamism with Muslims as a whole. In the same way the dim witted will associate moderate Judaism with Zionism.

It's dangerous rhetoric from Anderson and Braverman, but given they're Tories and desperately need to secure votes for the GE, it's no surprise they went down this route.
It's all these Islamist ULEZ cameras that have taken control. That's why right-wing extremists bomb them.
 

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