ToffeeAndy said:
Its ironic there's Man City fans calling for Everton fans to have some humility and then coming out with some absolute dross thats just fuckin laughable!
Moyes a glorified Allardyce - I suggest you take this rather large bag of get to fuck and stick it up your arse! He may not be an advocate of the beautiful game, but to compare any manager that takes younger promising players, turns them in to internationals and finishes 6th, 5th, & 5th, with a 4th place thrown in there as well is about as far away from Sam Alardyce and his buying any player who's over 33 transfer policy! Seriously I pity some people on here! Moyes works with what he's got, and I challenge you to show me one manager outside the top 4 who's done a better job!
Also Everton are going backwards? How the fuck can you state this? How have we gone backwards??? If at the end of next season... thats the one thats not yet even started we finish below 5th then yes we have gone backwards. To state we are going backwards before the season even starts is frankly ludicrous!!!
I've spoken to some decent people on this board since the Lescott saga kicked off. Its a shame that for every decent fella who is able to post a good argument and listen to other fans points of view, there's 5 knuckle draggers who i'm suprised can even use a computer let alone post their inane drivle and insulting and small minded (and completely incorrect) views.
Its a shame because these people are giving the good folk who supprt City a very bad name!
I presume this is aimed at me since most of what you've got yourself worked up about is stuff I posted.
Lets address the points shall we...
Moyes...Glorified Allardyce. Well, yeah. He's done very well with limited resources. Allardyce's, were in fact far more limited than those Moyes', plus Bolton really are a no mark club whereas Everton is up there with City, Spurs, Villa, as "sleeping giants" or whatever you want to call them. His "style" of play is, well lets put it politely shall we, closer to that of Bolton under Allardyce, than say, Martin Jol's style when he was Spurs manager. Once again, Moyes had done a very good job. I can understand why Evertonians feel so passionate about him. Much the same as However, IMO, he's a glorified Allardyce.
Secondly, I stated that Everton will go backwards next season. Why? Well, because you haven't got a fucking pot to piss in when it comes to transfers, whereas clubs like Spurs, Sunderland, ourselves, and even Villa, will be looking to strengthen significantly. Therefore, it would be delusional for you to think you can finish fifth again next season. That's reality. If that offends you, then tough shit, it's still reality.
Maybe if you had some humility as I suggested earlier, you'd accept your limitations as a club. You can still be proud of your club whilst acknowledging it's short comings...