Lescott [Merged]

[ox-blue]

As Moyes has said that Lescott's head is now twisted surely in his as his teams best interest would be to let the player go because why i have player who's head is somewhere else?

 

[bizzbo]

This transfer is as much, if not more, down to the internal politics at Everton than City and Everton's respective positions, or Moyes' view of a player's worth.

The idea that anyone else will ever offer a sum approaching £20m for Lescott is risible. It simply will not happen, ever.

Given that Moyes is desperate to strengthen his squad, and has no funds to do so, if he were being purely logical about this he would screw £22m out of us, reinvest £10-12m in a replacement CB, who is younger and cheaper wages-wise than Lescott, and spend the rest on the other areas of weakness in the Everton squad.

However, there are several factors that complicate this. One is that Moyes has allowed this issue to get personal, but more important are that: (1) he is immensely frustrated at having to 'sell to buy' despite his huge success so far; (2) he knows that Kenwright would like to sell, but he wants to assert his personal control over team affairs; (3) he suspects that he would not, in fact, see the whole £22m and suspects that some of it, at least, would go into the Kirby pot.

The deciding factor in this saga, other than Lescott's behaviour over the next few weeks, is what happens within Everton.

Kenwright simply cannot risk openly overruling Moyes, as that would risk losing the manager. And then Everton would be royally fvcked. So he needs to persuade him to sell. Will that happen? Who the fuck knows. I would just add this. I think Moyes is being a little unreasonable with his chairman, because I cannot see how Kenwright can be expected to magic up the funds to compete. And for Everton's future, well beyond the Moyes era, the issue of a new stadium is crucial.

I agree with the analysis, but not the conclusions. Where would Moyes go? Newcastle?? Surely the most important thing to him is to maintain his reputation. Spend the season on the sidelines and he risks becoming yesterdays man.

I have a suspicion that Moyes may be holding this up, knowing it is likely to happen, in order to secure more of the fee for transfers, and to remind Kenwright and the American how awkward he can be when he doesnt get his way.

 

[sam221985]

If the situation was exactly reserved, I can honestly say I'd want to sell Lescott at all costs now.

 

[The Fixer]

For human and unselfish reasons.

Liam , you need to be more open minded about this difficult situation .

Moyes isn't being selfish , but looking after the interests of the club . Evertons future must come first , and though we all have different opinions on how best to deal with this situation , there are obviously things in Moyes mind which we are not able to figure in our own equations .

Imo moyes is doing the opposite, his self stubborness is preventing you from adding to your squad, he's moaning he has no cash but wont make a 15 mill proffit on Lescott who wants to go, if i was a blue dipper i'd be fooked of with the ginger frog eyed fecker!!!

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

Well , you might be right Matty , but I'm not sure we have too many options at the moment .
You must understand that we have NO COVER for our defense , so how can we further reduce our numbers at this time ?

By reducing your numbers you get £20m, that money can then be used to buy the recruits Moyes is moaning he can't afford. I'd have thought that was simple. £20m (minus the amount owed to Wolves) would get you a centre half to replace Lescott, plus you'd still have probably £12m or so left for a couple more additions.

That's only a possibility though Matty , and not guaranteed .
If we sell Lescott today , who covers his position tomorrow ? Yes , we could possibly bring someone in before the window closes , but could we get a defender or two that would be up to the job ?
We also need cover in other positions . It looks easy on paper , but in the real world , it's not so simple .

 

[Bryan]

Hughes seems to really have a personal vendetta in this situation. Don't you think most clubs would hear what Everton have been saying and then move on? I know many members here will be very disappointed if you go into the season as-is on the defensive side of the pitch.

 

[respect_campaign]

Moyes is digging his heals in for a reason. He's built a side on a small number of key signings and unity, he let the board and players know from day one that he's in charge, and he's not lost a key player since Wayne Rooney in 2004.

He's doing exactly what manager's used to do before they lost their spine, he's taking control of the footballing side of the club, letting the players and board know he's in charge, and is building his way to bring the best for his side. Giving into a big bid and player power is not what a strong manager does, he's built his side on committment and his control, if he ignores his own philosophy how can he ever control the club he's supposed to manage.

He's not looking to up the fee, he's not playing mind games with Hughes, he's stating his position, a position that has been the same all summer and a position he's got no intention of changing.

 

[Luke The Blue]

As Moyes has said that Lescott's head is now twisted surely in his as his teams best interest would be to let the player go because why i have player who's head is somewhere else?

I agree.

Why the hell does he want to keep Lescott when he will be unhappy and not the same player. He could get 20m for him!!!!

P.S Moyes and Alex Ferguson your wankers.

 

[svennis pennis]

Hughes seems to really have a personal vendetta in this situation. Don't you think most clubs would hear what Everton have been saying and then move on? I know many members here will be very disappointed if you go into the season as-is on the defensive side of the pitch.

I think its Moyes with the personal vendetta.

 

[The Fixer]

Hughes seems to really have a personal vendetta in this situation. Don't you think most clubs would hear what Everton have been saying and then move on? I know many members here will be very disappointed if you go into the season as-is on the defensive side of the pitch.

Your argument is flawed mate... your forgetting one important issue TRANSFER REQUEST player wants to leave you.