Leslie Mark Hughes

[bizzbo]

he does come accross as smug and self-satisfied. infuriating when we are not doing well.

 

[dannybcity]

PSG are still in the comp and needed a result to stay in it and Twente did very well.

 

[hilts]

What about Zab's move to DM? Never playe that position before but Hughes obviously saw something in him to move him up and he's been one of our most consistent performers ever since. Also, Kompany had been a central defender all of his previous career with the odd DM appearance, but Hughes bought him specifically to play him at DM. Inspired really, knowing what we know abot big Vinny now.

I think you are doing Hughes a bit of a dis-service saying he doesn't get the best out of players in whatever position they play in. Those 2 are shining examples.

That's where you're wrong. Zab has played RB, DM and CM at different points of his short career PRIOR to coming to this club. Vinny, himself says he prefers playing DM and Hughes bought him for the specific reason of being able to do both jobs. He's not 'converted' the lad, in any way shape or form!!

Show me one other player that doesn't have multiple positions under his belt that Hughes has moulded?

None. He doesn't need to, that's why. Those players you mentioned are utility, anyway!

Football is all about results(cliche) we have spent 100 mill approx so if we dont qualify for europe by winning uefa or league position then i think he will have to go and i dont think he can argue with this, i am a supporter of hughes but if you look at what everton, villa and even west ham(and their in the shit financially) have done he cant have any arguments. It can all go good or bad over the next couple of months

 

[mackenzie]

I wish people would get over his rag past and stop using it as a weapon against people who just don't think he's good enough. Great eye for a player but every other aspect of his management of our club is rightly being questioned. I disagree that he's doing a good job; he's doing a shite job. So far stumbling into the last 8 of a cup competition not too many are taking seriously is blinding some people's view of him. After penalty wins against two poor teams from Denmark, beating another team by a goal from the same country and pretty average performances against Twente and PSG we are pretty lucky to still be in the competition but that's the way European tournaments are these days so all credit to him and the team for getting us here. But this run is not gonna fool me into thinking he's the right manager for the long term and performances like last night, although eventually victorious, are not gonna have me changing my mind any time soon. And to be perfectly honest even if we win the competition I still don't want him to be our manager. Our performances against weaker opposition this season have been absolutely appalling and for us to be in and around and even below the likes of Fulham, Wigan, West Ham as well as being a million miles from Everton and Villa represents, to me at least, a shite season!

Even if we win the competition. Fookin hell!!

Do you realise what you just said there?

 

[Disturbance]

I'm a Hughes sceptic and have been since the loss to West Brom. I disagree with many of his team selections and substitutions and his interviews can sometimes leave a lot to be desired (although that is not hugely important).

However I don't start threads/post slating him everytime we lose. I don't dislike him because he's an ex-rag and I definitely do not support individual players before City as a whole.

I have however been accused of all of the above by certain numpties on here (billyshears etc.) just because I dared to express my opinion.

As far as I'm concerned if he leads us to UEFA cup victory or a 7th place finish he can stay, if not I think ADUG will (and should) get rid. One point I will say in his favour is that his signings have been good on the whole although the pursuit of Santa Cruz and no plan B was a concern.

Next time someone tries to tell me what I think I will refer them back to this post.

 

[bodak]

He's had one season with inherited players and 1 month of transfer window nonsense to get his team together. Whilst I accept a really good manager should be able to work with whats hes's got I think the immediate expectations are too high.To use a (Gail) cliche its a project and this is the start.

Out of interest - where do you guys expect City to be now?

 

[jay_mcfc]

Even if we win the competition. Fookin hell!!

Do you realise what you just said there?

Do you have some kind of alarm for every time I post about Mark Hughes? Yes I realise EXACTLY what I said thank you very much. Now tell me why beating mostly below average teams across Europe is gonna see me change my mind about a manager I just don't rate? My ambitions for City are to be winning the league and competing properly in the champions league; Hughes will not do that regardless of whether we win this cup or not!

Do YOU realise what I've just said or are we just gonna keep going round in circles?

 

[Kinkys Blue Socks]

What about Zab's move to DM? Never playe that position before but Hughes obviously saw something in him to move him up and he's been one of our most consistent performers ever since. Also, Kompany had been a central defender all of his previous career with the odd DM appearance, but Hughes bought him specifically to play him at DM. Inspired really, knowing what we know abot big Vinny now.

I think you are doing Hughes a bit of a dis-service saying he doesn't get the best out of players in whatever position they play in. Those 2 are shining examples.

That's where you're wrong. Zab has played RB, DM and CM at different points of his short career PRIOR to coming to this club. Vinny, himself says he prefers playing DM and Hughes bought him for the specific reason of being able to do both jobs. He's not 'converted' the lad, in any way shape or form!!

Show me one other player that doesn't have multiple positions under his belt that Hughes has moulded?

None. He doesn't need to, that's why. Those players you mentioned are utility, anyway!

Points taken but on the back of that, do you not think it unfair to have no faith in Hughes because he failed to mould a player himself seen as he has only been at the club 9 months?

To have the kind of influence you refer to in the Gelson incident against Liverpool, takes time to achieve. It's a confidence and respect from the playing staff that can only be built up over time. You can't just expect him to come in and transform players into something else after a few months His words would carry much more water a few years down the track when he is fully established at the club and the players know he is a permenant fixture (a la David Moyes).

I honestly believe he is doing a good job and we are progressing in the right direction. Not as quick as maybe I would like but progresing none the less. Hughes is young and if he gets it right after having say 3 seasons in charge, we could potentially get another 20 years out of him. Now wouldn't you love that kind of stability at City?

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

A chimp IS in charge! You want someone who knows what he's doing already, not someone learning his role.

Come on, Bigga. He knows his role and what management is. Any manager in the world would need time to get a squad together and it wouldn't all be peachy until they had.

Ok, so maybe I'm harsh! But, I think my problem is that Hughes doesn't seem to instil anything other than what the players bring to table. Do you know what I mean?

For example, when SWP first played for us, he played along the wing. He goes to Ch£l$ki and Jose has him believing in his ability to play 'in the hole' at some points and the lad was effective.

That's what I want. I want the manager to be able to get the best out of our players for whatever position they are needed in. That takes a skill in management.

I know that Shaun played in mid for us, but being honest, it wasn't too far from what he was doing on the wing, That was just transference. Gelson is a good example. Slung in at right against the Dippers. Hughes should have gripped him for 5mins before putting him on and giving the boy some belief and strict instructions at not going crazy, if he was really convinced to put the boy in that role.

I just don't have any confidence in Hughes.

I think I know what you mean and I just think Hughes takes a different approach to man-management. He's got the 'football factory' (MHTM) way of preparing the players when they're training and I think he's trying to instill a winning mentality that way. Train Hard, play hard and do it all behind closed doors and more professionally. If a player can't motivate themself for half an hour coming on as a sub in the Premier League then he shouldn't be there.
I can understand anyone being concerned as this is a really important time for the club, but I think we should see what he can do with a truly balanced team because the players he's got in like Zab, Kompany, Bellamy and even Bridge are the ones that seem to perform for us more most matches.

 

[bizzbo]

i did expect top 6 at the beginning of the year, maybe that was a bit optimistic for a new manager and a squad with too few experienced players.