Leyton Orient release statement re: Olympic Stadium

[Matty]

It's stupid the council want them to pay for the transport improvements. You'd think that would be the councils job, considering Spurs were going to be creating hundreds of more jobs already with the proposed supermarket too being built nextdoor as well

It's absurd that it's cheaper for Spurs to get the olympic stadium, bulldoze it, build it again, and still save 250m quid

Tottenham is already one of the worst places in London with crime and being rundown. The council should sort out the travel links themselves, something they should have done years ago. Anyone that's been to the lane will share them sentiments

I think most Spurs fans are against moving, originally the idea was to persuade Haringey to pull the finger out the arse. It seems they didn't budge much.

Spurs will face the same tests as any other COMMERCIAL proposition, if a supermarket is built anywhere then it has to pay for the infrastructure, new road layout etc to service it, Spurs, who will benefit, should pay up.
It's partially Spurs fault the area is rundown anyway and to let important buildings become derelict is shameful.

Would that be true if a bigger supermarket was being built on the site of an existing smaller supermarket, yet the pre-existing infrastructure wasn't up to the standard of dealing with the pre-existing smaller supermarket? Surely in that scenario the cost should at least be shared? Or else the supermarket chain will simply build elsewhere (as Spurs are threatening to do with this Olympic stadium move).

Personally I don't think Spurs should get it. Not just because if they did get it they would be able to build a 60,000+ stadium and progress either. The stadium was built for the Olympics and as such should have an athletics legacy (as was promised at the bid). Spurs option is to essentially demolish the stadium and rebuild on the site, no athletics legacy whatsoever. At least with West Ham they'll retain the track. Ok, so that's not ideal for a football stadium but, essentially, that's not the point. West Ham are getting the stadium for a discounted price, the track is the penalty they pay for that. The stadium needs a football team within it to make it financially viable, without one it will cost money each year and will be a wasted resource. West Ham is the bets fit for a multi purpose arena.

 

[u2fme2]

got to feel for them...

they never seem to get a mention in the press aswell.

not at all

 

[Matty]

Seems the decision has been postponed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/london_2012/9371972.stm

 

[Wheelsy]

Why wasn't this planned for though?

An Olympic stadium was converted into a multi purpose venue that can be used for both football and oval sports 12 years prior... surely in this time a stadium could have been designed that could be converted at will?

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_Australia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_Australia</a>

And besides all this, London already has a stadium with a huge capacity. Why couldn't Wembley have been used?

 

[mano-obe]

It's stupid the council want them to pay for the transport improvements. You'd think that would be the councils job, considering Spurs were going to be creating hundreds of more jobs already with the proposed supermarket too being built nextdoor as well

It's absurd that it's cheaper for Spurs to get the olympic stadium, bulldoze it, build it again, and still save 250m quid

Tottenham is already one of the worst places in London with crime and being rundown. The council should sort out the travel links themselves, something they should have done years ago. Anyone that's been to the lane will share them sentiments

I think most Spurs fans are against moving, originally the idea was to persuade Haringey to pull the finger out the arse. It seems they didn't budge much.

Spurs will face the same tests as any other COMMERCIAL proposition, if a supermarket is built anywhere then it has to pay for the infrastructure, new road layout etc to service it, Spurs, who will benefit, should pay up.
It's partially Spurs fault the area is rundown anyway and to let important buildings become derelict is shameful.

It was the council's job to maintain buildings that Tottenham don't own, and any listed buildings should be maintained by the government surely? Tottenham have been donating to the council in excess of 4m pounds already for the rundown area. It makes you wonder what the local council has been doing with this cash, are they using it wisely or pocketing it for themselves?

It's not about transport links to the supermarkets etc, it's to the actual ground. It's bad enough already, very bad. Anyone that goes to White Hart Lane, home and away fans always say it's a nightmare.

I don't see why Spurs should be paying British Rail or Haringey to sort it out.

The difference is Manchester council done everything it could to help City out, they're a friendly bunch and it's worked well. London on the other hand and Haringey in particular are pretty scummy.

Tottenham area have the highest unemployment in London, it seems the government just plonk everyone joining the capital there. There are 300 different languages spoken in the area. The place is a mess to be honest

 

[THFC6061]

Would you have to change your name if you did get the Stadium?

The Hotspur Football Club started playing their games in 1882 on Tottenham Marshes and as I said earlier, changed their name to Tottenham Hotspur in 1884.

We remained there until a move slightly to the north-west to Northumberland Park in 1898, which was when we started charging admission to our matches.

We were soon attracting crowds of around 14,000 so it was clear a move to a larger ground was needed and about a year later we moved 100 yards down the road to our current home at White Hart Lane.

At the time, both Northumberland Park and White Hart Lane fell within the boundaries of Edmonton, yet we didn't feel the need to re-name ourselves Edmonton Hotspur.

 

[lloydie]

Spurs will face the same tests as any other COMMERCIAL proposition, if a supermarket is built anywhere then it has to pay for the infrastructure, new road layout etc to service it, Spurs, who will benefit, should pay up.
It's partially Spurs fault the area is rundown anyway and to let important buildings become derelict is shameful.

It was the council's job to maintain buildings that Tottenham don't own, and any listed buildings should be maintained by the government surely? Tottenham have been donating to the council in excess of 4m pounds already for the rundown area. It makes you wonder what the local council has been doing with this cash, are they using it wisely or pocketing it for themselves?

It's not about transport links to the supermarkets etc, it's to the actual ground. It's bad enough already, very bad. Anyone that goes to White Hart Lane, home and away fans always say it's a nightmare.

I don't see why Spurs should be paying British Rail or Haringey to sort it out.

The difference is Manchester council done everything it could to help City out, they're a friendly bunch and it's worked well. London on the other hand and Haringey in particular are pretty scummy.

Tottenham area have the highest unemployment in London, it seems the government just plonk everyone joining the capital there. There are 300 different languages spoken in the area. The place is a mess to be honest

It's Spurs job to take care of the ones they do own, and they haven't. What makes you think anyone but Spurs should pay to make it easier for predominately Spurs fans to get to WHL?

MCC premised their bid for the C/W games on having City as tenants, it made economic sense for Manchester, at no point was the benefit of Manchester City Football Club a motivation for the decision.
If it made economic sense for Haringay to subsidise THFC's plans they would, clearly the benefit to Haringay as a whole does not. As for MCC being a friendly bunch but you don't like Haringay, it's a bit pathetic tbh. If you feel strongly enough stand against them and in favour of what you believe will benefit the borough.
I repeat, THFC is a commercial enterprise and should be treated as such. If it's unable to progress it's plans without public subsidy then tough.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

got to feel for them...

they never seem to get a mention in the press aswell.

Well Orient moved from Clapton to Leyton anyway.

And West Ham moved from Plaistow to Upton Park.

And Arsenal moved from Kent to Highbury.

Football clubs moving grounds is part and parcel of the game.

But I shouldn't have to tell a Manchester City supporter that, should I?

Fucking hell we moved no distance what so ever and stayed in the city. We werent called Moss Side F.C.

You dont even want the stadium you just want the free land. You will alinate alot of your supporters with this move and would have no right to be called Tottenham Hotspurs anymore just like Wimbledon got renamed as MK Dons. Move and the club will lose a very impotent part of its identity

 

[mano-obe]

It was the council's job to maintain buildings that Tottenham don't own, and any listed buildings should be maintained by the government surely? Tottenham have been donating to the council in excess of 4m pounds already for the rundown area. It makes you wonder what the local council has been doing with this cash, are they using it wisely or pocketing it for themselves?

It's not about transport links to the supermarkets etc, it's to the actual ground. It's bad enough already, very bad. Anyone that goes to White Hart Lane, home and away fans always say it's a nightmare.

I don't see why Spurs should be paying British Rail or Haringey to sort it out.

The difference is Manchester council done everything it could to help City out, they're a friendly bunch and it's worked well. London on the other hand and Haringey in particular are pretty scummy.

Tottenham area have the highest unemployment in London, it seems the government just plonk everyone joining the capital there. There are 300 different languages spoken in the area. The place is a mess to be honest

It's Spurs job to take care of the ones they do own, and they haven't. What makes you think anyone but Spurs should pay to make it easier for predominately Spurs fans to get to WHL?

MCC premised their bid for the C/W games on having City as tenants, it made economic sense for Manchester, at no point was the benefit of Manchester City Football Club a motivation for the decision.
If it made economic sense for Haringay to subsidise THFC's plans they would, clearly the benefit to Haringay as a whole does not. As for MCC being a friendly bunch but you don't like Haringay, it's a bit pathetic tbh. If you feel strongly enough stand against them and in favour of what you believe will benefit the borough.
I repeat, THFC is a commercial enterprise and should be treated as such. If it's unable to progress it's plans without public subsidy then tough.

That's untrue it hasn't taken care of any buildings. If Spurs are going to pump money into the local economy then surely the local council should help?

As I said some of the stats on the area show it's one of the worst in England, it's the worst place in London.

I don't blame Spurs for wanting out now, it will be cheaper than staying.

 

[Cellarite]

Would you have to change your name if you did get the Stadium?

The Hotspur Football Club started playing their games in 1882 on Tottenham Marshes and as I said earlier, changed their name to Tottenham Hotspur in 1884.

We remained there until a move slightly to the north-west to Northumberland Park in 1898, which was when we started charging admission to our matches.

We were soon attracting crowds of around 14,000 so it was clear a move to a larger ground was needed and about a year later we moved 100 yards down the road to our current home at White Hart Lane.

At the time, both Northumberland Park and White Hart Lane fell within the boundaries of Edmonton, yet we didn't feel the need to re-name ourselves Edmonton Hotspur.

ffs. he's not on about 1882. he's saying now. if you move to the olympic stadium, would your name change?