Liam Delap

I leave it here as the bait is very strong in this thread. Delap isn't what Chelsea need (or more importantly us). Delap's next move is vital.
 
Theres a cole palmer thread in general if you two are having this argument again
 
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You've mentioned it.
Yep. So just because you understood what I wrote initially about clubs identifying talent also applies to Palmer, it doesn't take away from the point about Delap. Which was the one I made. On the Liam Delap thread. So maybe instead of just reiterating your position that others might disagree, maybe start elaborating a little bit. Or at least answer people on what they actually write
 
No He had two seasons where he scored "plenty" and he was already older than Delap.

Delap looks on course to hit around 1 in 2 at the end of season.
This is is first breakout season and it still not outstanding. Useful but not title winning standard.
 
Yep. So just because you understood what I wrote initially about clubs identifying talent also applies to Palmer, it doesn't take away from the point about Delap. Which was the one I made. On the Liam Delap thread. So maybe instead of just reiterating your position that others might disagree, maybe start elaborating a little bit. Or at least answer people on what they actually write
Chelsea's intial recruitment happened to be scattergun rather than designed and they struck lucky with the way Palmer's transfer panned out. It could have easily ended up the same as his City career went.
 
No He had two seasons where he scored "plenty" and he was already older than Delap.

Delap looks on course to hit around 1 in 2 at the end of season.
Haaland trumps the lot but he is a little exceptional more than the rule.
 
Delap could easily stall his career if he ends up with a top 4 club.
Yes. This is true for most players. Very few are guaranteed to be a success. Those are usually a lot more expensive. But that doesn't change the fact that said top 4 club will have evaluated him and bought him for a reason. Clubs monitor other clubs players down to youth level. In Liam Delaps case they now have about 19 games in the Premier League to judge him on where he has also delivered in terms of numbers
 
Yes. This is true for most players. Very few are guaranteed to be a success. Those are usually a lot more expensive. But that doesn't change the fact that said top 4 club will have evaluated him and bought him for a reason. Clubs monitor other clubs players down to youth level. In Liam Delaps case they know have about 19 games in the Premier League to judge him on where he has also delivered in terms of numbers
A huge step to expect him to really thrive at a top club. Chelsea need more of an Isak or even a Haaland than a Delap and that is not a slight on the latter's ability. Even a return to City wouldn't be the wisest of career choices either.
 
This is is first breakout season and it still not outstanding. Useful but not title winning standard.

Are you Alan Carr's dad? It's possible you might be wrong and not be as clued up as a scouting and technical team that have built a young promising team and also inflated the values of all academy players they sell on?
 
Are you Alan Carr's dad? It's possible you might be wrong and not be as clued up as a scouting and technical team that have built a young promising team and also inflated the values of all academy players they sell on?
It is a opinion less of the insults.
 
A huge step to expect him to really thrive at a top club. Chelsea need more of an Isak or even a Haaland than a Delap and that is not a slight on the latter's ability. Even a return to City wouldn't be the wisest of career choices either.
That is fine, and I am not saying that any young player isn't a risk. But the point is that it is well and good saying they need an Isak or a Haaland but those player might not be available for them. They then have to invest in who they decide can reach those levels.
That doesn't mean it will work. United has spent a fortune on their team but still has a young Dane that are currently looking awful for them starting every match as a number 9, with only a handfull of goals in the Serie A to go by in terms of what he has proven before they signed. Because they can't get their hands on anyone else. Liverpool have an 80 million pound striker on the bench from Benfica. Players are so much more expensive now that you either get the one great opportunity to sign someone world-class, like we did with Haaland or Bayern did with Kane. Or you go full PSG and spend a boatload on Neymar or Mbappe. Or you have to spend slighly less on someone you think you can build to be what you need
 
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That is fine, and I am not saying that any young player isn't a risk. But the point is that it is well and good saying they need an Isak or a Haaland but those player might not be available for them. They then have to invest in who they decide can reach those levels.
That doesn't mean it will work. United has spent a fortune on their team but still has a young Dane that are currently looking awful for them starting every match as a number 9, with only a handfull of goals in the Serie A to go by in terms of what he has proven before they signed. Because they can't get their hands on anyone else. Liverpool have an 80 million pound striker on the bench from Benfica. Players are so much more expensive now that you either get the one great opportunisty to sign someone world-class, like we did with Haaland or Bayern did with Kane. Or you have to spend (slighly) less at someone you think you can build to be what you need
Delap for all his efforts this season will still struggle at a bigger club at the minute. He could have Kane or Palmer style rise in his career where he does hit 20 goals a season but that still takes a huge slice of fortune for that to really happen. It is a huge step from being in a relegation scrap to becoming their main man.
 

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