Thanks for your detailed answer, I think the point I would make is that Messi might end up in court, but I don't think it will be connected to City they won't be there with him, as you point out that's like standing there with a blank cheque. I would also add I think its also by no means certain he ends up at City, if it goes through the courts I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up a Real just to really piss people offI think we are all over the place but that come across that way because I’m answering so many different people with so many different perspectives on it.
I don’t know what will happen. I don’t believe Messi will play for Barcelona anymore. Now having said this, if our present does not agree to negotiate it will either end in court or he could get back to training or if he chooses to sit out the season pending the courts ruling.
We know city can’t pay anything over 100-120 for a potential transfer. Yet many argue that Messi is a free man. I think we all have to agree that if the family and legal team of Messi are meeting with Barcelona, it’s to convey that he won’t stay under any circumstances and that they need for the Barcelona to facilitate the negotiations based everything he has done for the club.
So who is playing bluff ? Who has the legal edge ?
we know Barcelona need to balance the sheets and one would assume they aren’t in a position to turn down cash for Messi. But the president has given all indications that he not going to budge. Can he do that? Sure he can because we know how the contract is written. It says he had until October to say he was leaving.
Messi on the other hand is not very credible in the sense that he says he’s free, his contract says otherwise and to top it all off he has his camp asking Barcelona to negotiate. So what is it Messi ? Are you free or are you not. Contract clearly says NOT.
So let’s say it goes to court ? Barcelona has a contact that indicates his freedom is 700 million, it’s safe to say the judge isn’t going to award them 700 million, but if they decide to take legal recourse, Messi and City are risking that the courts will rule anything from zero to 700 million. When you go to court the judge takes many things into account and a mayor factor in this is the amount of financial consequences it would generate for Barcelona with his loss.
I don’t see a judge saying less than 100 ( his salary ) and possibly double for the marketing and sponsorship losses.
Will City take the risk of requesting the temporary transfer from FIFA and await for the resolution ? What if the amount awarded takes them over the FIFA fair play restriction ?
Anything is possible, but it’s clear Barcelona’s president has the upper hand.
Worth trying. What is lost? A bit of your nervous energy?No ,because it's never likely to happen. Just too many hurdles and obstacles to cross when trying to sign a player of this quality.
Just a reminder, City haven't as yet made a single comment on whether we want him or not, we may well be sitting waiting to see what happens, so there is no "risk" at this point, we may well be hoping, and then there can be a negotiation on some kind of suitable fee, and remember we have 3 people who are ex barca, and they won't want to see them suffer (too much).So let’s say it goes to court ? Barcelona has a contact that indicates his freedom is 700 million, it’s safe to say the judge isn’t going to award them 700 million, but if they decide to take legal recourse, Messi and City are risking that the courts will rule anything from zero to 700 million. When you go to court the judge takes many things into account and a mayor factor in this is the amount of financial consequences it would generate for Barcelona with his loss.
I don’t see a judge saying less than 100 ( his salary ) and possibly double for the marketing and sponsorship losses.
Will City take the risk of requesting the temporary transfer from FIFA and await for the resolution ? What if the amount awarded takes them over the FIFA fair play restriction ?
From a playing perspective, Messi can still make a big impact on this League and improve City imo. Without doubt he is the best player in the world and one of our problems this season is not being clinical enough in front of goal. I am confident Messi could rectify this issue.I'm 50/50 on it mate, it would be a lot better to have him when fans are present in the stadium, what if we're not allowed back in next season, would be a crying shame. He's a luxury player who I'm not sure we really need.
Just call the whole saga off and get some other players in who we need.
Probably a bit of water to go under the bridge to determine this. I like Domalino's point about the potential role of FIFA in this. They could unlock the transfer.
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