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[SWP's back]

No way can we be so flippant about £200m with FFPR.

Got to take into account that if he did flop it'd be hard to sell him on as FFPR would also make it difficult for other clubs to afford him.

Imo the £200m should be spent on 4-6 top end players instead.

No disrespect stoned,but what is the difference (FFPR wise) in £200 mill on messi or £200 mill on 5-6 other players?

None mate. What I'm saying is if we have £200m earmarked to spend (despite FFPR) I'd much rather we spent that on 4-6 top end players.

This would give us a much stronger squad. Messi would give us a stronger team. Squad wins the league over team every day of the week.

Tell that to Liverpool.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Its a truism that a player's performance improves when he is surrounded by talented players.

Likewise Having the best player in the world i.e. Messi's presence will further enhance the performance of our WC players.

The knock on effect.

That's a contribution you can't quantify in money but qualitatively I daresay (20-100)% extra from each & every player on the team.

Not just PL title but how about CL?

Think about this, Cup/Trophy (WC, League etc.) Winners always have Top WC (Top 3) players.
Having Messi, will increase the likelihood of us winning top titles & CL cup. That will easily make up for his acquisition.

It's once in a lifetime opportunity!

These players are already surrounded by quality. If they can't raise their games by the extra 10-20% already they aren't worth keeping.

 

[Stoned Rose]

No disrespect stoned,but what is the difference (FFPR wise) in £200 mill on messi or £200 mill on 5-6 other players?

None mate. What I'm saying is if we have £200m earmarked to spend (despite FFPR) I'd much rather we spent that on 4-6 top end players.

This would give us a much stronger squad. Messi would give us a stronger team. Squad wins the league over team every day of the week.

Tell that to Liverpool.

Not much in it imo.

The likes of Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Richards and Boyata wouldn't replace like for like in Liverpool's squad.

Sktrel and Agger are both better than any of our CBs other than Kompany.

Sterling is better than Navas.

Henderson and Allen are better than Garcia.

Suarez and Sturridge are as good as if not better than Aguero and Negredo, and definitely better than either of them plus Dzeko.

 

[kun]

None mate. What I'm saying is if we have £200m earmarked to spend (despite FFPR) I'd much rather we spent that on 4-6 top end players.

This would give us a much stronger squad. Messi would give us a stronger team. Squad wins the league over team every day of the week.

Tell that to Liverpool.

Not much in it imo.

The likes of Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Richards and Boyata wouldn't replace like for like in Liverpool's squad.

Sktrel and Agger are both better than any of our CBs other than Kompany.

Sterling is better than Navas.

Henderson and Allen are better than Garcia.

Suarez and Sturridge are as good as if not better than Aguero and Negredo, and definitely better than either of them plus Dzeko.

All of those players are first team though.

Would Alberto and Aspas get in our squad ahead of Dzeko and Jovetic? No.
Would Moses get in our squad ahead of Milner or Navas? No.
Would you take Aly Cissokho and Jon Flanagan over Richards and Kolarov? No.
Coates and Kolo ahead of Demichelis and Nastasic? Don't think so...

 

[bluemonkey71]

I believe our owners think we can get it back but there's a risk I agree.

But I'll say it again that the actual cash is not an issue for us. If we pay £150m for Messi and pay him £15m a year, that goes into the accounts at £45m a year. I believe we'd recoup something like half of that back from Nike & Etihad alone. If we get five others to cough up £5m a year each then that £45m is covered 100%.

So we show £45m a year expense and £45m a year additional revenue, all of which is directly attributable to Messi.

If we then spend another £150m on four players and pay them a total of £15m a year, our annual cost for those is something like £50m a year. If we get £25m off the wage bill from players sold, we've got Messi and 4 other players for a net annual cost of £25m.

Is that not worth doing?

I'm confused.

So we spend £300m on fees and then another 60m a year on wages and sell a few of the dead wood (probably for low(ish) fees, but FFPR wouldn't be an issue?

You're just being deliberately stupid now. Go away.

Chuckles....

 

[fbloke]

 

[Stoned Rose]

Tell that to Liverpool.

Not much in it imo.

The likes of Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Richards and Boyata wouldn't replace like for like in Liverpool's squad.

Sktrel and Agger are both better than any of our CBs other than Kompany.

Sterling is better than Navas.

Henderson and Allen are better than Garcia.

Suarez and Sturridge are as good as if not better than Aguero and Negredo, and definitely better than either of them plus Dzeko.

All of those players are first team though.

Would Alberto and Aspas get in our squad ahead of Dzeko and Jovetic? No.
Would Moses get in our squad ahead of Milner or Navas? No.
Would you take Aly Cissokho and Jon Flanagan over Richards and Kolarov? No.
Coates and Kolo ahead of Demichelis and Nastasic? Don't think so...

I'd take pretty much anyone over Dzeko. I'm not a fan at all.

Your inclusion of Jovetic is pretty pointless because he's hardly ever been available.

I'd take Flanagan over Richards every day of the week. I'd take Cissoko (from a defensive point of view) over Kolarov.

I'd take Kolo over MDM. I've never seen Coates play.


Squad wise, I'd say we shade the GK category, the defender category is to close to call, we shade the midfield category, the attacking category is to close to call.

Not much in it.

The fact the squads are very close is obvious. Liverpool's 14 games less than us has helped their squad stay fitter, sharper and more 'on it' than ours.

Hence my thinking that quality in numbers across weaker areas is better than 200m on one player, as amazing as he is.

 

[thesilvalining]

Not much in it imo.

The likes of Sinclair, Garcia, Rodwell, Richards and Boyata wouldn't replace like for like in Liverpool's squad.

Sktrel and Agger are both better than any of our CBs other than Kompany.

Sterling is better than Navas.

Henderson and Allen are better than Garcia.

Suarez and Sturridge are as good as if not better than Aguero and Negredo, and definitely better than either of them plus Dzeko.

All of those players are first team though.

Would Alberto and Aspas get in our squad ahead of Dzeko and Jovetic? No.
Would Moses get in our squad ahead of Milner or Navas? No.
Would you take Aly Cissokho and Jon Flanagan over Richards and Kolarov? No.
Coates and Kolo ahead of Demichelis and Nastasic? Don't think so...

I'd take pretty much anyone over Dzeko. I'm not a fan at all.

Your inclusion of Jovetic is pretty pointless because he's hardly ever been available.

I'd take Flanagan over Richards every day of the week. I'd take Cissoko (from a defensive point of view) over Kolarov.

I'd take Kolo over MDM. I've never seen Coates play.


Squad wise, I'd say we shade the GK category, the defender category is to close to call, we shade the midfield category, the attacking category is to close to call.

Not much in it.

The fact the squads are very close is obvious. Liverpool's 14 games less than us has helped their squad stay fitter, sharper and more 'on it' than ours.

Hence my thinking that quality in numbers across weaker areas is better than 200m on one player, as amazing as he is.

Are you fucking serious, their squad is miles behind ours. Dzeko has scored over 20 goals so how can you possibly say you'll take aspas over him? Cissokho over kolarov?fuck right off. Toure over demichelis must be a joke aswell considering toure couldn't get ahead of lescott whilst demichelis could easily. Flanagan looks decent from what I've seen so I'll accept him over Richards because of Richards' injuries. But seriously,they have a good team but not a great squad and they wouldn't be top if they were in Europe.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

I wouldn't take aspas over playing Richards upfront ,as for Toure over Demichelis. Jesus fuckin Christ !

 

[Stoned Rose]

All of those players are first team though.

Would Alberto and Aspas get in our squad ahead of Dzeko and Jovetic? No.
Would Moses get in our squad ahead of Milner or Navas? No.
Would you take Aly Cissokho and Jon Flanagan over Richards and Kolarov? No.
Coates and Kolo ahead of Demichelis and Nastasic? Don't think so...

I'd take pretty much anyone over Dzeko. I'm not a fan at all.

Your inclusion of Jovetic is pretty pointless because he's hardly ever been available.

I'd take Flanagan over Richards every day of the week. I'd take Cissoko (from a defensive point of view) over Kolarov.

I'd take Kolo over MDM. I've never seen Coates play.


Squad wise, I'd say we shade the GK category, the defender category is to close to call, we shade the midfield category, the attacking category is to close to call.

Not much in it.

The fact the squads are very close is obvious. Liverpool's 14 games less than us has helped their squad stay fitter, sharper and more 'on it' than ours.

Hence my thinking that quality in numbers across weaker areas is better than 200m on one player, as amazing as he is.

Are you fucking serious, their squad is miles behind ours. Dzeko has scored over 20 goals so how can you possibly say you'll take aspas over him? Cissokho over kolarov?fuck right off. Toure over demichelis must be a joke aswell considering toure couldn't get ahead of lescott whilst demichelis could easily. Flanagan looks decent from what I've seen so I'll accept him over Richards because of Richards' injuries. But seriously,they have a good team but not a great squad and they wouldn't be top if they were in Europe.

You're taking my Dzeko comment far to literally.

We've played 8 games in Europe. 4 of which were against Plzen and CSKA and 1 of which was a bit of a dead rubber v Bayern.

You genuinely saying Liverpool couldn't have handled that? They seem to have handled their last 14 league games pretty well.