Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

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It’s almost as if we might know what’s really going on :)

Given the city management team, and pep - I can’t see how we wouldn’t know what’s going on with this one.

Far too close to the main man of the story to not know; I think we have taken a step back - Messi knows the offer if he wants to join but would have to come to us for it to happen - we are not getting involved in this circus.
 
You don’t have to amend anything bud

An economist has stated Messi sells 2m Barca shirts. It’s clearly a fictional figure to show Messi ‘pays for himself’ seeing as Barca only sell around 2m per annum.

Regardless of 2.5 years ago, do you really think shirt sales have changed much in 2 years?

https://everythingbarca.com/2021/02/05/lionel-messi-generates-barcelona/

Ive read the above article & there’s no fact based figures in it at all, it’s all conjecture, 2m this, 30% that without actually proving that’s the case

Do you also believe that the data analytical company who were paid by United to discover they have 650m fans worldwide? Or that City have breached FFP & are getting kicked out of Europe/Prem/football for cheating?

The only way to measure his value is to see how many shirts Barca sell this year vs last year & how much Barca’s revenue drops this year. I’m pretty confident they will sell more that 0 shirts & im also pretty certain their revenue won’t drop 30% which is over £200m. If not, I’m completely wrong & will be happy to admit it fella

I’m sure if we carry on we’ll be going round in circles, so have a top day mate :)
No I don't think they have changed much I was just being a bit arsey ha I think shirt sales will have gone up though.
No I don't believe that. I think (like most rational people) they will have combined all social media accounts that they have and just stuck a zero on the end. Pleases the masses that way.
Everything to do with City for me we have been as transparent as a club and the case has been closed. Obviously there's still the case with the league. But I don't believe we will kicked out of anything.
Everything and everybody else are just an irritation, the press, the opposition fans etc. I've learnt that if they've got enough time to think about and talk about us then we're obviously not that small a club are we. Constantly on the minds of every poor sole out there even if we are all plastic fans of an oil rich club hey?
I don't know about you but being a plastic fan of this marvellous club from every envious hatred fan is fucking fantastic.
Yeah we probably will, you too mate
 
There's a lovely story about a discussion between Joe Mercer and Stan Bowles in the 1960s, about how Joe explained business finance to Stan in very simple terms when he had requested a pay rise.

Stan wasn't the brightest button in the box, but even he came to understand how one player's demands could have a negative impact on a club.

I suspect from your (and numerous others on here) that you don't know much about how a big business is run.

Suffice to say that Messi is Stan times a few millions, but while Stan appreciated what Joe said and accepted it like a man, Lionel Messi took advantage of short-sighted owners and put himself before the club he supposedly loves by making excessive pay demands.

If you don't understand the longer term impact that's had on Barcelona's overall wage bill, you've got much to learn.

I understand that Messi brings in more money than he is paid as does Ronaldo and that they are unique in the football world in doing so. I don’t think Stan was in that category.

There are many references to this fact in this thread. It doesn’t matter how much Messi is paid if he brings in excess of that figure.

How Messi negotiates how much he is paid is irrelevant, to me at least. I think you you are concentrating on one side of the equation while ignoring the other.

We will have to agree to disagree.
 
couldnt care less about hte soap opera around him...thats mostly twatter based and Barca politics (badly run politics at that)

If there is ANY chance of getting him we should be all over it......

2 years of the best player to ever play the game (and he still is) then its an absolute no brainer......

Imagine the conversation between the club (Omar and Txixi) and the major shirt sponsors - Puma, Next Gen, Ethiad etc)

Txixi/Omar - Hi sponsors...just thought we would let you know we are signing Messi

Sponsors/..........what the actual fuck!!!!! You mean the nest player ever?!?!?

Txixi/Omar - yup thats the one...now we may be looking to redo our sponsorship deal to help us finance this....lets say a few mill etc on each deal....

Sponsors - you bet ya!

And thats even before he kicks a ball for us....his impact on the pitch would be phenominal

Pep - Hey Phil and Jack - you fancy playing with the best ever player in the world...?

Jack and Phil ......what you mean we are finally signing Phil Jones.......!?!?!?!?!??

Pep - no you twats....the other best player in the world; Lionel Messi - you get to play and learn from him every day for two years.....

Jack/Phil plus the rest of the squad......oh go on then!

Seriously, Messi elevates what ever team he plays in. Without Messi Barca are well and truly fucked
 
Anyone summarise what actually changed overnight? Has he been offered another contract by Barca? Can Barca even do that and register players yet? Is he on a plane to Argentina? This seems like one absolute cluster fuck and pretty relieved City are no part of it.

Some guys on twitter have claimed he had another 'final' offer from Barcelona. ESPN argentina then reported that some guys on twitter have claimed so. A plane presumably registered to him has flown to ibiza. Nobody knows who if anyone was on it. Some guys on twitter claimed Laporta is also in ibiza. He got there pretty quickly. The plane then went on to Argentina. Probably to pick up his dad. Who is in Spain. Maybe. PSG haven't cancelled the eiffel tower for today yet. Nor yesterday's medical. Nor the one on sunday. Meanwhile Pep and messi have spoken. But only a few of us know. Parisians are still turning up at the airport. Or they might not be, could be yesterday's photos. Messi is evaluating Chelsea's offer, PSG are still favourites, there are other offers on the table too, but there are only two. And one is from Barcelona obviously.
 
On what basis is Messi the best player in the world. GOAT for sure. But he's not timeless. The excuse for his club's decline seems to be that it's the other players, well we'll see wont we when he goes to PSG. If you are all correct then all things being equal they should win the Champions League now. IMO they will get dumped out the moment they play a decent side, because Messi will further destabilise an already unbalanced team.

FOotball is a team game. These great indivdual players (Ronaldo and Messi) now detract from their teams so that their individual stats are maintained but the performance of their side drops.
 
Some guys on twitter have claimed he had another 'final' offer from Barcelona. ESPN argentina then reported that some guys on twitter have claimed so. A plane presumably registered to him has flown to ibiza. Nobody knows who if anyone was on it. Some guys on twitter claimed Laporta is also in ibiza. He got there pretty quickly. The plane then went on to Argentina. Probably to pick up his dad. Who is in Spain. Maybe. PSG haven't cancelled the eiffel tower for today yet. Nor yesterday's medical. Nor the one on sunday. Meanwhile Pep and messi have spoken. But only a few of us know. Parisians are still turning up at the airport. Or they might not be, could be yesterday's photos. Messi is evaluating Chelsea's offer, PSG are still favourites, there are other offers on the table too, but there are only two. And one is from Barcelona obviously.
Perfect summary.... Well done!
 
What's @tolmie's hairdoo waiting for, someone to say his name three times?

What are your thoughts on it all, curious to hear.

Your thoughts that is, that i'm interested in, rather than anything beyond that.
 
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