Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[Jesus H Gabz]

Love Bernie and Kdb but they are not wingers. I think that's the little business we failed to do in the last transfer window and it showed yesterday. We had no attacking threat from the right. Phil did his best on the left but had no support from Ake as Ake basically played like a left sided CB and not a full back, he offered no attacking support whatsoever.

We have to make the most of the January window, the worldcup would be the perfect opportunity to weigh up a decent pacey right wing player. Maybe the Ukrainian kid, maybe someone else but we really need to start hitting teams hard from both wings. Our attacking play this season hs always been from one wing and 90% of the time that's down to Phil playing either on the right or on the left wing.

You’d think a right side of Joao Gundy & Kev would produce more than they did, we do tend to overload one side (normally the left) but like you say Ake never offered much in terms of an under/overlap which forced Phil to turn back into midfield with the ball, so frustrating at times, we had umpteen chances to counter with Phil or Kev but the opposite flank & even Haaland at times just couldn’t get up there, given Salah played infield most of the game Joao should’ve definitely played at LB

 

[SWP's back]

It’s funny how always get shouted down if you dare slag him off as a defender.

Yesterday was unreal, still beggars belief that he would take such a risk, and what’s worse is he’d already done it earlier in the game too.

And he managed it again later in the game as well.

 

[Tb1981]

There's a fine line and certainly when you see a Liverpool team fielding Milner and Gomez.

The first half was far too passive and gave Liverpool the belief they could hang in the game and get something.

Allison had little to do, the VAR decision probably right, although we know the decision process is open to corruption.

We didn't get close enough to goal and accomodating Gundo (again) has the impact of moving the other chess pieces, sometimes to the detriment of players starting in their best positions.

Forget all the talk about Erling, the title being in the bag.

Need to regain our momentum because Arsenal are playing without pressure still and Chelsea are hiding in the shadows.

Winnable games coming up and quite happy to lose battles, as long as we keep winning the majority of the wars.

That first half was so poor
They don’t even bother with the press anymore, all they have is the long ball and the long diagonal ball
We were happy to keep the ball and go nowhere and they were more happy than us about that
They had Milner at right back who wasn’t isolated once.
Pep fucks it up against these so often. He gives them a chance where there is no need to. Play players in their position and play the best ones in the best formation, then if we lose… so what!!
As for cancelo, utter shite. We hid him on the right to save him from salah and he still gave a goal away

 

[flook]

Taylor DID let the Haaland shirt tug go. He was ordered by VAR to take another look meaning he had to change his decision and award a free kick. As he didn't have the balls to stick with his original decision.

Struggling with the whole concept tbh, the referee decides to be "lenient" with heavy tackles, pushing, holding etc, except when it leads (nearly) directly to a goal. So it's therefore not a foul unless the whole point of the game is achieved (ie a goal is scored) at which point it becomes a foul. I'm all for letting the game flow, but then using VAR to redefine the boundary of the referees scope for latitude in one single game changing instance is both bizarre as a concept and completely at odds with one of the fundamentals of VAR which was to bring consistency to the game

 

[flook]

Finally calmed down enough to post.

Cancelo is a fucking idiot.

Cancelo is the single most frustrating player I've ever seen at City, and we've had a good number of contenders for that accolade. He's brilliant one minute and sunday league level the next. He's the closest we have to an ego at the club. As a player, he's our very own Tront :/

 

[alexmcity]

Agree with everything in your post, but the highlighted part is pretty odd, frankly. Do you really think that there's any player out — or Pep — who is arrogant before going into a match with the dippers? If anything, we give them a bit too much respect. A case in point: Phil and the way he was playing for the whole of the first half. Don't know whether it was his decision or Pep's. Doesn't really matter. It was thoroughly negative. Did he take Milner on even once?
The game turned on a sixpence. There's the truth. It happens. If Liverpool end up higher than us in the table I'll do a naked streak from the South Stand to the Family Stand in the final match of the season. And nobody wants to see that, believe me…

I was talking about the expectations around the game, that we were going to smash them because, say, they were with Milner at RB. I agree it was weird that Foden didn't even try to dribble past Milner. Was it because he was (subconsciously) afraid of Milner injuring him before the WC? Was weird, any City fan expected more attacks and duels against Milner, but he didn't need to make a single foul.

We'd have played better if they weren't huge underdogs yesterday. Many times we play a team with injury problems, we are not sufficiently concentrated. E.g., when we lost from Norwich 3:2 in 2019, they were ravaged by injuries. It was a shocking loss back then. Anyway, it's far easier to play when the expectations are not high.

When we won 2:1 vs Liverpool in January, 2019, we played with a makeshift defence: Danilo at RB and Laporte at LB, and KDB was injured... Didn't help Liverpool!

 

[Jocks Y-Fronts]

Our first real test and we failed very badly here. We made them look champions when they have been shite. Even lesser teams played better against them.
We should be instilling fear instead we look like sheeps when we play there

My thoughts too. Still to play Chelsea, Arse, Spuds etc and now we don't look like the champions of the universe. We look good when battering Forest etc, but first game against a "bigger" team and we fold.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

My thoughts too. Still to play Chelsea, Arse, Spuds etc and now we don't look like the champions of the universe. We look good when battering Forest etc, but first game against a "bigger" team and we fold.

6 points from those games wouldn't be bad

 

[blue whippet]

Not many have mentioned our pathetic corners and corner routine yet, just what is the point of having two players stood next to the ball, when only one player usually takes a shit corner, leaving the other doing fuck all in a hopeless position on the pitch. It's baffling to me, and is a total waste of time.
We obviously don't practice corners as well, because they are utter wank, absolutely zero threat from any of them game after game, free kicks not much better

I find this irritating too. It's generally KDB and Foden stood by the ball too and they both appear to struggle to put a decent ball in. They are two of our best players at shooting too, both stood there away from the goal. Last season our corners were good, not sure why they should have deteriorated that much.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Agree with everything in your post, but the highlighted part is pretty odd, frankly. Do you really think that there's any player out — or Pep — who is arrogant before going into a match with the dippers? If anything, we give them a bit too much respect. A case in point: Phil and the way he was playing for the whole of the first half. Don't know whether it was his decision or Pep's. Doesn't really matter. It was thoroughly negative. Did he take Milner on even once? This is Phil Foden, the brightest young prospect in English football, arguably, against a has-been.
The game turned on a sixpence. There's the truth. It happens. If Liverpool end up higher than us in the table I'll do a naked streak from the South Stand to the Family Stand in the final match of the season. And nobody wants to see that, believe me…

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