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[supercity88]

I didn't watch a minute of the game and have still only seen the short highlights they put up on youtube. We never win at Anfield, I didn't expect us to and I told myself not to bother because there's usually some controversy. I'd seen the lineups and the Liverpool team was so fucking weak I did get a bit of hope we could beat them. But then I saw the City side and thought we looked far too unbalanced. I was expecting Kovacic in there instead of Alvarez but sounds like we were decent in the first half and then we started to struggle.

More than happy with a point, especially as that probably should have been a penalty at the end. We have to beat Arsenal though. If we don't it will take a lot for us to go and win the title again in my opinion.

 

[chedinho]

I rewatched the game this morning and on second viewing I have a few observations...

1) We played really well in the first half hour.
2) We played too deep in the last 20minutes of the first half.
3) The penalty was ridiculous and was 100% on Ake. It was marginal wether Eddy would get the ball. On relfection we'd say back of and make Nunez play it. But we've seen Eddy get to a lot of those 50/50's.
4) Eddy should have been subbed for the penalty. He was clearly injured at that point.
5) The pen (and Eddy getting injured) affected us for about 10 minutes. Ake lost his shit and didn't really get himself sorted out for the rest of the game.
6) After the pen they did that weird thing that they do where they seem to go even more mental than usual. During this time it was chaos, the ball was pinging about and we couldn't control it. That was only dealt with when Kovacic came in and he and Rodri got some control of the midfield. We made a few decent chances in that time and could have gone ahead again. Phil was quite annoying when he shot rather than passed on a few occasions.
7) When we got into the last 15 minutes we got forced deep again because of their press and it got a bit manic but for all the bluster they actually created very little clear cut. And the couple of things they did do were dealt with by Ortega (who was absolutely excellent).
8) They did that manic shit and becasue they were not really creating much started reverting to trhowing themselves onto the deck at every opportunity. Doku could have conceded a penalty but for once Oliver made a good decision.

Summary... an exellent away point. We never folded under their pressure (which we have done in the past multiple times).

There needs to be an investigation into how they maintain energy levels like that week in week out. Its hard to understand...

Their style of football is absolutely appalling. Its Graham Taylor/John Beck/Wimbledon.

I generally thought Michael Oliver refereed the game well, but I did notice that basically every tackle or challenge they made completed by going through our player or resulted in a push off balance. This wasn't picked up by the referee and explaned why we lost the ball more then usual.

I hope their style disappears from the game when Klopp goes. Its horrible stuff. It was shit in the 80's and its shit now.

We did very well to survive and get the point.

They generally don’t have the energy to carry on pressing the week after.
And neither do we.
Going back to last seasons Bayern and Real games when we were absolutely on it. We followed those games up with energy saving victories.
That’s where we differ.

I was happy with our team line up yesterday. It was Liverpool hustling on the edge of fouling that disrupted our game.

 

[Brendan110_0]

Thought it was good exercise for Europe, they threw the kitchen sink at us and failed. They needed to win IMO, they fucked it.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

We had the chance to smash these c*nts once and for all and we blew it , we gifted them a goal and let them back in the game and we do it nearly every time we go to that shithole , now the headlines are "brave depleted Dippers robbed by City". We need to make this result irrelevant by stuffing the Goons and winning the title now and this result and Clubshops farewell tour will mean f&ck all

 

[TinFoilHat]

Have we had an update on McAllister? Did he make it through the night?

Book of condolences has been opened at the Anglican church.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The ball rarely 'stuck' with the forwards particularly Vikingo & kept coming back to an overworked midfield.

Imo ....Vikingo off on 55 minutes,Kovacic on, technical players moving around Dick VD.

Special mention to Steffan Ortega.....top keeping and professionalism,10/10 !!

 

[alexmcity]

Can’t understand how we allowed a vastly under strength team to dominate us like that

It's easy to understand and I was writing about it before the game. Klopp's teams compensate for the technical inferiority of their players by upping the intensity. They managed to outrun us. Their press stopped us from feeding the attacking players with promising passes.

Consider the following scenario: City vs a league 2 team. If the players of the latter run 120 km and City only 90 km, or if they make much more sprints than our players, then the gap in quality will be significantly diminished.

Klopp's open secret is energy or intensity. Liverpool almost never dominate games in which they are outrun. They control games by working harder than the opposition. Obviously, this strategy can't work for multiple seasons in a row. That's why Liverpool have finished in the top 2 only two seasons in a row (18/19 and 19/20), whereas City have done it for 6 seasons in a row.

 

[west didsblue]

We still have it in our hands with Arsenal.

But we have lost it with Liverpool unless they draw or lose a match.

Yep, that was my point. And although we have it in our hands with Arsenal they also have it in their own hands with us, but we can no longer stop Liverpool if they win every game.
All academic because we’ll all probably drop points when we least expect it.

 

[mattcity5]

They generally don’t have the energy to carry on pressing the week after.
And neither do we.
Going back to last seasons Bayern and Real games when we were absolutely on it. We followed those games up with energy saving victories.
That’s where we differ.

I was happy with our team line up yesterday. It was Liverpool hustling on the edge of fouling that disrupted our game.

If we're going to press we need to do it as a team. I thought Erling was very poor for it in the second half especially, just jogging everywhere.

 

[Gordyola]

Now I've not read many posts just seen one that said "Thought we did well until the penalty." I am willing to bet that if that (whatever the misdeed was) had been against our player there would have been no penalty.

No that was a penalty there was no doubt, not even 0.00000000001% of doubt